1 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:57,840 so 2 00:03:52,400 --> 00:01:53,840 uh 3 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:58,000 some of you about your experiences and whatever\h crazy stories you might have um whether it's\h\h 4 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,280 ghost related cryptozoology whichever and\h sometimes we occasionally get into politics so\h\h 5 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,200 whatever whatever you like to discuss\h we can do that here it's basically just\h\h 6 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,320 my chance to hang out with you guys and um instead\h of just having more of a structured interview\h\h 7 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:18,800 so i'm sorry about last week i really got busy\h a lot of things were happening and so i needed\h\h 8 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,000 to take care of that in order to continue\h this week uh just as usual so sometimes\h\h 9 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:32,720 it's it was family and ufo hub and my day job\h related all in once that just needed my attention\h\h 10 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,920 so anyway i apologize that i skipped over last\h wednesday but i'm hoping uh you know i can make\h\h 11 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,760 it up to you today so i have a list of just a\h few things i would like to cover before we go\h\h 12 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:50,880 into open lines because earlier today i've asked\h ginger she hosts one of the groups in san luis and\h\h 13 00:04:52,560 --> 00:05:00,480 the basically wanted to uh have her talk about\h uh why she hosts him um what kind of group\h\h 14 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,720 uh it is and possibly you know not\h possibly definitely a location so\h\h 15 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:11,040 some of you that are from san luis or maybe in the\h area you could go and partake in those meetings\h\h 16 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,560 so sorry my attention was taken away\h by i have my wonderful wife give me\h\h 17 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,200 some feedback of whether or not everything\h looks good on on your guys's end because\h\h 18 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,240 it's just me here in my little bubble so i can't\h see how well the stream is going out there so\h\h 19 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,840 sometimes i do get distracted distracted with all\h kinds of things going on so um if you would like\h\h 20 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:39,520 to share your story today whatever it might be i\h we usually do or use the telegram group where you\h\h 21 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:47,360 can just download telegram whether it's on your\h phone or computer and just join the ufo up group\h\h 22 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,920 the link is in the description below if you're\h on youtube if you're on facebook the description\h\h 23 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,960 should be usually above the video um and uh\h in there there's also the link to the group\h\h 24 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:03,520 voice chat is going on right now join it and you\h should be able to just raise your hand and that'll\h\h 25 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:09,760 tell me in my cue that you want to speak to me so\h with that being covered i wanted to also just do\h\h 26 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:18,080 some quick announcements this friday sherry wilde\h is finally um rejoining the the circuit i guess so\h\h 27 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:25,600 she's had a lot of health issues and things\h that she's been needing to to get over and she\h\h 28 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:31,520 was definitely not herself the few times i got to\h talk to her in person she was very weak with all\h\h 29 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,920 the things that were going on in her life and so\h she finally is strong enough to to be able to then\h\h 30 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:44,560 have longer conversations and you know partake in\h skype calls and and phone calls or whichever so\h\h 31 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:51,600 um i don't know if this is the first time but i\h believe this is her first time since she's been\h\h 32 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:58,240 away for at least a couple of years i believe\h i could be mistaken but she reached out to me\h\h 33 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,040 said she's ready and i was more than happy\h to have her on so this friday sherry wilde\h\h 34 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,640 is going to be my guest at 7 p.m as\h usual also just want to mention it now\h\h 35 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:17,120 it's actually august 20th that i'm going to have\h brad johnson on he's the one that channels adronis\h\h 36 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:25,040 and um i asked him back because of well actually\h for two reasons one reason is as of august 31st\h\h 37 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:32,160 he he about two weeks ago made an announcement\h that he's going to um stop channeling a dronus\h\h 38 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:39,600 and um i wanted to take the opportunity to\h to talk to him uh one last time before this\h\h 39 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:45,600 cutoff date which is august 31st and so i also\h uh wanted to then this time around getting to\h\h 40 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:52,080 um i wouldn't call them necessarily i don't know\h what to call these but it's like new information\h\h 41 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,560 and things that i've from watching\h his channel and watching a journalist\h\h 42 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:04,000 do his channeling like i want to cover some things\h that he mentioned things that kind of took me back\h\h 43 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:13,920 such things like nasa never went to the moon and\h certain things about space and about space travel\h\h 44 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:19,520 in general how challenging and difficult it is\h and all kinds of things you know and certain\h\h 45 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:25,920 like i guess call it the hidden hand that's\h that's kind of doing their controlling around\h\h 46 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,400 the planet so i wanted to get into those topics\h and pretty much start out with those directly\h\h 47 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,400 instead of last time we had an introduction about\h who brad johnson was what he did what jonas was\h\h 48 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:43,600 but this time it would just be i'm hoping more of\h the hard harder not harder but more like these um\h\h 49 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,400 these questions i believe everyone all of us\h want to know you know the it's it's what what\h\h 50 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,280 in the world is going on and what perspective\h he would he would um have to offer so that's\h\h 51 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:59,920 august 20th so i'm really happy he agreed to do\h uh to do the interview which one last time before\h\h 52 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:09,600 i guess um he stops this his channel in\h journey okay so um all right got that\h\h 53 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:16,880 uh covered so what i wanted to to basically\h just uh i want to show you a video this for\h\h 54 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,840 for those of you who are already on telegram\h and and following i post there a lot more often\h\h 55 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:27,680 because i'm trying to establish more of a base on\h telegram and working on other platforms in case\h\h 56 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:34,960 um youtube doesn't work out anymore i don't know\h they're constantly being the pain changing rules\h\h 57 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:41,200 you know shadow banning and i've noticed that\h a great deal on my channel and so um you know\h\h 58 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:47,120 it seems like it's best to just kind of start\h a presence somewhere else and so i'm starting\h\h 59 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,320 with telegram and i've also looking into rumble\h and all that i might have mentioned that to you\h\h 60 00:09:53,120 --> 00:10:00,800 so i'm also um trying to engage people there more\h so that hoping that you might shift over you know\h\h 61 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:06,640 i know youtube is very convenient and it's you\h know it's on everybody's fingertips to just easily\h\h 62 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,560 you know oh something is happening youtube it well\h that only works if we truly had a free society if\h\h 63 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:19,040 we truly didn't have a control system to lock out\h some information but only allows others and then\h\h 64 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:25,920 do it under disguise of um you know this is fake\h news this is not fake news and kind of being the\h\h 65 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:33,280 the gatekeeper of information and um almost like\h you know moral police as well you know only they\h\h 66 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,840 know what's wrong what's right you know and so i\h personally don't like that some of you didn't know\h\h 67 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:44,480 me would wouldn't understand why i don't like that\h it's just um so anyway so i'm trying to build up\h\h 68 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,520 i feel like i'm a bit behind but i'm trying\h to build up like telegram and hopefully soon\h\h 69 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:56,000 starting to upload and rumble as well and so i\h hope you give it a chance because as convenient\h\h 70 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,960 youtube is you know there's a lot that pretty soon\h they might not allow us to talk about so anyway\h\h 71 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:09,840 let me see so anyway it's the um i posted\h that uh the video call it i guess it's\h\h 72 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,840 just called the shape shifting ufo so\h i want to show this to you real quick\h\h 73 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:21,280 and this was sorry i don't have the more\h of a background information on this but\h\h 74 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:27,600 this was taken by a person on an airplane\h or on a tarmac while sitting on an airplane\h\h 75 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:35,520 but it's basically this um some say it's\h that it's a water particle in the window\h\h 76 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:44,240 and i'm not sure that that's the case and it's\h quite drastic shifts that it does and so um i post\h\h 77 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:52,080 you know posted that for uh those on telegram to\h you know check it out because um i don't you know\h\h 78 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:59,440 um i don't know i don't have a direct connection\h to where uh okay they whoever they are told me\h\h 79 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:05,200 this is what that you know this is this ship from\h this place and whatever i just have no idea but at\h\h 80 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,960 least wanted to keep you informed um that way i\h know uh i don't know how many people on youtube\h\h 81 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,400 might have already seen that but if this is the\h first time you've seen it there's other um i think\h\h 82 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,920 just like um there's not the actual narration to\h it there's just some kind of a i guess airplane\h\h 83 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,760 background sound so i got that out for for this\h purpose because there's nothing sad but it's\h\h 84 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:34,000 an interesting interesting um uh video and it's\h one of these things that kind of puts us in this\h\h 85 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,960 i guess in this you're doomed if you do have\h evidence you doom if you don't because if you\h\h 86 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:46,160 do then it could be anything but if you don't then\h you know you're not telling the truth you know so\h\h 87 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:52,000 it's that's that's the part with the sucky\h part of evidence right everybody wants that\h\h 88 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:58,160 great picture you know and uh if a ufo picture is\h too blurry it's too blurry of course and can't be\h\h 89 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:04,080 admissible but if it's too clean it's too good you\h know and rightfully so some some of them are cgi\h\h 90 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:11,120 but there are others that are that are um you know\h quite unique where it's you know it goes beyond\h\h 91 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,760 just what you can see but it comes comes with a\h feeling where you go like there's something there\h\h 92 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:23,600 okay so um well so the other one though i\h wanted to to cover real quick and it's actually\h\h 93 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,920 oops shifted back to it let me get rid of this one 94 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:42,320 um it's actually in during this uh this video\h i did a like a behind the scene of ozark ufo\h\h 95 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:49,360 conference and what we um generally do and so i've\h had that on there since pretty much 2018 this was\h\h 96 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:58,720 about a month after i um you know after i attended\h the conference here you can see us and myself and\h\h 97 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,920 the rest of team were just running around setting\h up chairs and all that stuff and then the next day\h\h 98 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:09,040 everyone then slowly coming in and filling the\h room well anyway the reason why why i bring that\h\h 99 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:17,120 up there's ted he's one of the av guys really cool\h guy the reason why i'm bringing that up is that um 100 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:27,840 i received an email from a very nice lady i\h got to later on talk to her and she's basically\h\h 101 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,360 working with the team that's coming out with\h this documentary that's airing on showtime\h\h 102 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:40,480 this weekend and so they were basically asking me\h about rights or licensing rights to some of that\h\h 103 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,600 time lapse footage there's some\h more later on in that video\h\h 104 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:51,760 and so uh they wanted they they wanted to add\h that because there's a segment in this four-part\h\h 105 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:58,960 you know mini documentary that's coming out this\h weekend i think august 8th on showtime there's\h\h 106 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:05,040 a section talking about conferences and so i was\h very hesitant i sent an email back with some of my\h\h 107 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:11,600 demands you know i basically the only way i would\h even start to consider this if for one it doesn't\h\h 108 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:19,360 uh make fun of conferences uh the ufo hub um uh\h any individual people and just you know if it's if\h\h 109 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:26,800 it's uh used in a negative way in in you know in\h in that light and so they basically just assured\h\h 110 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,160 me that this was just a documentary they will\h have two sides you know as like a conversation\h\h 111 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,920 if i'm not mistaken uh but it's not going to\h be used in this nefarious way which was my\h\h 112 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,960 main concern so i agreed you know i said all\h right it would be kind of nice to at least 113 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:52,480 i guess partake in that way and so plus\h just recently as you guys know i've i'm\h\h 114 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,360 actually using my brand new computer to\h run this stream and hopefully things go\h\h 115 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,480 a lot uh well not hopefully definitely going a\h lot smoother so anyway all of that cost money so\h\h 116 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,200 they were offering me some money for the licensing\h fee so it's like why not the work is already done\h\h 117 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:15,760 and they needed about 10-15 seconds so i figured\h wherever i could help and um it's kind of cool too\h\h 118 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:23,760 to i've never actually partaken or contributed\h to a larger documentary such as that one so um 119 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,880 let me 120 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,280 i had it early here so let\h me show you to you real quick 121 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,680 okay there we go so this is the documentary\h that's going to be um airing here pretty soon\h\h 122 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:49,840 august 8th on showtime whoa i've never\h seen anything like that what the actual 123 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,360 when i look in the sky at night nowadays i've\h got the knowledge that i didn't have before\h\h 124 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,440 i don't know what that was that\h there's something out there\h\h 125 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,760 and it's real when this whole thing\h started i tried to tell people about it 126 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,440 no one believed me but now i do have evidence\h\h 127 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:20,400 some of this is gonna be hard for me\h encountered something over the sky\h\h 128 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:28,240 most sightings of ufos can be explained oh my\h gosh only a small percentage can't be it was giant\h\h 129 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:36,320 quiet and it was amazing within less than a second\h crosses right in front of me poof and it's gone\h\h 130 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:47,680 and then bam the new york times story it changed\h everything this is it this is when the government\h\h 131 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:54,160 is going to reveal the truth oh my god it was\h a bombshell right that's what it was whether\h\h 132 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,840 you accept it or not some people actually saw this\h stuff people are actually going to believe us now 133 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:08,000 imagine if it was acknowledged\h officially that ufos exist 134 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,840 our own divisions would\h suddenly feel so much smaller\h\h 135 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:22,000 it was dark money even members of congress don't\h know it's there this is too big to turn away from\h\h 136 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:29,120 there's something in our sky and we don't\h know what it is but there's something coming 137 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,760 the world needs to get ready\h for what's about to happen 138 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:48,480 okay so that was that and so yeah i'm voting i'm\h planning to check it out i haven't seen how they\h\h 139 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:54,160 used it at which which section you know but uh\h i'm curious to see it so we might just sign up\h\h 140 00:18:54,160 --> 00:19:00,080 for the free trial and see if we can um you know\h cancel before the free trial is over right because\h\h 141 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,760 we don't we don't have show time so anyway just\h wanted to tell you about that so that's pretty\h\h 142 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,320 much it i think i'm all caught up with what i\h needed to to tell you about and so i want to 143 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:23,200 want to switch over to telegram and actually\h get ginger on ginger if you unreach yourself\h\h 144 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:32,000 you should be uh you should be able to talk to me\h hi man there you are how are you how's it going\h\h 145 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,480 going good i'm i'm really glad to be here thank\h you for having me well no i i appreciate you uh\h\h 146 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,440 doing this last minute you know i i wanted\h to at least i noticed sometimes people need\h\h 147 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,040 someone else to come on before they come out and\h dial in to share their stories so i figured um\h\h 148 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,840 you know i want to talk to you about what you do\h because uh especially for those in san luis you\h\h 149 00:19:53,840 --> 00:20:00,320 know could benefit from but um you were telling me\h a while back that um you had tell me a little bit\h\h 150 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:07,120 so i got to know you over coasties and so tell me\h about whether or not cosys is still going on and\h\h 151 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:15,200 what other new venues and things you have changed\h or have yeah coasties was a monthly meetup group\h\h 152 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,280 for fans of the radio program coast to coast am\h as you know you were a really great member of\h\h 153 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,760 the group for a little while there and even\h presented there we had monthly speakers or\h\h 154 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,880 topics sometimes it was a roundtable discussion it\h was usually topics along the lines that coast to\h\h 155 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:36,720 coast am would cover and that group started\h in 2009 in the back of a barnes and noble\h\h 156 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:43,040 just because um me and somebody i work with found\h out that we both listened to coast to coast am and\h\h 157 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,800 were really excited to find out that there was\h another you know individual who who liked that\h\h 158 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,400 those topics and so we started the group and we\h met monthly for over 10 years all the way up till\h\h 159 00:20:54,400 --> 00:21:02,080 the beginning of 2020 and by that time we were\h meeting um in the back room of the bowling alley\h\h 160 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:07,520 and the bowling alley was uh gonna not have the\h room available to us anymore and then right then\h\h 161 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,560 the pandemic hit so a couple of times we tried\h meeting on zoom and it just didn't work out great\h\h 162 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:19,440 and i had been kind of thinking in my mind as i've\h gotten older you know this all of this research\h\h 163 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,880 and study is kind of part of my personal spiritual\h journey and as i've gotten older and i've you know\h\h 164 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,840 studied a lot of the different topics and listened\h to a lot of the shows and met a lot of people\h\h 165 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:36,960 where i really wanted to drill down to and hear\h more about was from actual experiencers people\h\h 166 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:43,840 who experience something strange or different\h or unexplained phenomenon or phenomenon they\h\h 167 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,800 can explain but most of the rest of us wouldn't\h understand i was just so so much more interested\h\h 168 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,280 in hearing those stories and a few of the people\h from coasties i've gotten to know pretty well and\h\h 169 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,000 i'm sure you've heard this before too one\h of the first things they'll tell you is i i\h\h 170 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,960 can't talk about this with anybody else there i\h can't tell my family about this i can't tell my\h\h 171 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,760 friends about this you know i think i'm in contact\h with extraterrestrials or i think that i've\h\h 172 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:14,320 you know seen ghosts or i see things other people\h don't see a whole broad range of experiences\h\h 173 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:20,160 and so i wanted to create a group especially for\h them especially for them to share their stories\h\h 174 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,040 so not only for them so it's also for people\h like me who are not an experiencer i've never\h\h 175 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:31,200 had any interesting experiences but i'm intensely\h interested in what is there that doesn't meet the\h\h 176 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,960 eye what else is there about this world that we\h don't understand and you know me adnan you know\h\h 177 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,840 that's kind of my trajectory i i don't have\h the experiences myself but i'm interested in\h\h 178 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,880 what others have to share and have always been\h interested in following your path as well right\h\h 179 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:56,560 well um so uh do you do you want to maybe\h share about the location uh where it's at\h\h 180 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:03,440 yes those are to basically cover first first\h yeah our first meeting was last month july and\h\h 181 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,960 every month we're going to meet the second friday\h night of the month every month second friday night\h\h 182 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,000 of the month so last month was the very first\h meeting july the name of the group is bridges\h\h 183 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:21,200 and it's we meet at chesterfield mall which is\h in chesterfield missouri on the upper level next\h\h 184 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,000 door to macy's so inside the mall next door to\h macy's it's good to come in the macy's entrance\h\h 185 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,760 and it is free to attend there's a suggested\h donation of like a couple dollars or five\h\h 186 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,840 dollars because we are putting out coffee and\h soda and tea and whatnot it's a nice big room\h\h 187 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:46,160 and our very first meeting we invited a near-death\h experiencer a woman who um has even done a little\h\h 188 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:53,440 bit of writing on ndes and served on a national\h nde um i guess it's like an organization that\h\h 189 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:59,200 studies ndes her name is linda jackman she\h lives in a suburb here in st louis and uh\h\h 190 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,640 she was interviewed on tv a few times so she's\h pretty you know well-versed in the subject and\h\h 191 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,640 has had multiple near-death experiences of her own\h so it was a really great kickoff evening and um\h\h 192 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,120 what i wanted to share with you and your\h listeners is one of the things that's different\h\h 193 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:24,320 about the way this group is being handled is it's\h supposed to be you know we want it to be create\h\h 194 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:30,000 a safe atmosphere for people to share what's\h going on with them you know without fear of\h\h 195 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:37,360 judgment and at the same time you know to be to be\h given a respect and it doesn't mean that we have\h\h 196 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:42,880 to believe everything but that everyone would be\h heard at least you know the speaker would be heard\h\h 197 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,600 so i created a little opening reading to try\h to set the tone for the meeting and i wondered\h\h 198 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,800 it's only a couple paragraphs long if you\h thought it would be okay for me to read that\h\h 199 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,960 sure why not okay so the beginning of the\h meeting this is what i'm reading at the beginning\h\h 200 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,560 welcome to bridges we're glad you joined us this\h is a meeting for people who have experienced or\h\h 201 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,360 are interested in unexplained or metaphysical\h phenomenon we meet once a month on the second\h\h 202 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:11,600 friday of every month the meeting starts at seven\h and we need to be completely out of the mall by\h\h 203 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,880 nine the goal here is to build bridges with one\h another and with positive vibrations and energy\h\h 204 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,680 from the spiritual realm this is a place for\h growth and building our understanding of what's\h\h 205 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:28,640 out there some of the future topics at bridges\h will be seeing a non-human entity a ufo or ghost\h\h 206 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,640 out of body or near-death experiences and events\h of pre-cognitive or highly intuitive visions\h\h 207 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,960 each meeting we will feature a speaker this is a\h place for speakers to share their truth and not\h\h 208 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,600 be judged please be respectful of the speaker\h as they have come to share something special\h\h 209 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,160 that they may not be able to discuss in other\h situations if at any time you feel the need to\h\h 210 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,880 step out don't feel bad you will not be judged\h we understand these concepts can be overwhelming\h\h 211 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,200 so the idea they're adnan is that you know\h this is open to non-experiencers as well\h\h 212 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,640 and hearing some of these things might be a little\h freaky for them so i'm kind of hoping hoping to\h\h 213 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,400 drill down more to into the experiences than you\h know the previous group that i was a part of which\h\h 214 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,760 handled a lot more like conspiracy and\h alternative health and current events and\h\h 215 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,560 things like that this is drilling down more to\h the personal experience experiences but at the\h\h 216 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,360 same time being open to the public and we had a\h great turnout we had like over 20 people for the\h\h 217 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:33,760 first meeting and i'm expecting even more this\h month right well i hope those that are in in\h\h 218 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,760 saint louis and watching watching this that you\h know that's something they consider seeing and\h\h 219 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,360 you know i i'd appreciate that because it's you\h know it's um you know a lot of these different\h\h 220 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:51,440 groups when it comes to um i mean i hate to even\h consider it it's not in the same field but just to\h\h 221 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,320 this is like a example there's so many groups like\h aaa meetings and you know if you have you know all\h\h 222 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:05,520 these different um challenges in life you can find\h a meeting but it was you know i i i was not aware\h\h 223 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:12,240 of something that was you know related to what i\h was into you know and just having your meeting and\h\h 224 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:18,640 uh you know race at that time you know but he's\h he's gone now too you know it was it really was\h\h 225 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,800 you know great you know because it's now that\h i've been out of it for quite a while it's like\h\h 226 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,720 i would do anything to just be part of it you\h know when i was initially there you know there's\h\h 227 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,920 sometimes there's some infighting and people are\h very strong in their opinions but now i would just\h\h 228 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:39,600 revel in it and love it because you know i've been\h so out of it in that sense that i haven't been um\h\h 229 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:47,360 among this constant uh what's the word um exposure\h you know with with everyone and all their quirks\h\h 230 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:51,920 and all that when it comes to this field because i\h mean you have different i mean i get it sometimes\h\h 231 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,120 on the show too different people you know that\h have certain experiences and sometimes they have\h\h 232 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:02,160 different needs you know some just want to be\h heard i just want to be believed you know others\h\h 233 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,920 want to want both you know and it's that's the\h challenge in that but at least there's a group you\h\h 234 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,800 know where they're online and i loved it in person\h so i'm glad you're doing that in person you know\h\h 235 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,760 because you get to know each other and you can\h call each other and like hey can i talk to you and\h\h 236 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,800 you make friends you know for those that that you\h know it comes easy so you know i'm really happy\h\h 237 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,880 you're doing that and um you know it's um you\h know a lot of people don't know too what it really\h\h 238 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,080 takes to organize things because i know the few\h times i tried to organize you know it costs a lot\h\h 239 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,480 of money you know and so it you know and somehow\h in this field and everywhere else um somehow all\h\h 240 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,760 of us are supposed to be you know very noble\h people you know everything should be for free\h\h 241 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,960 you know just you know take my shirt off my back\h and just you know here you go you know and if you\h\h 242 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,000 truly need in your life depends on it of course i\h will you know but sometimes you know if a meeting\h\h 243 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,440 needs to be organized you know the the different\h places they want compensation uh they want their\h\h 244 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,640 food bought you know all these other things so\h you know i hope um you know people kind of get\h\h 245 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:13,360 past this i know it's gonna insult a lot of you\h out there but this you know very childish notion\h\h 246 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,800 and mindset that well this should be for free i\h was like well i know but you know my mechanics\h\h 247 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,840 should just fix my stuff for free and the doctor\h should just do what they do you know but it's\h\h 248 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:30,160 unreasonable when you ask them in that way you\h know so um you know you know i hope um i hope\h\h 249 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,960 people you know support you in more than just the\h small of a donation because the more they can give\h\h 250 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,840 the more it can grow you know they don't realize\h how much time and effort it gets into all that\h\h 251 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:48,240 well and adnan i would like to to announce an\h offer here for the first time on your program here\h\h 252 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:54,240 that if there are other people in other cities\h who would like to start a chapter of bridges\h\h 253 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,480 to start their own chapter we will try\h to help them we'll give them the readings\h\h 254 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,560 we can put their location information on our\h website the website is mysterybridge.com that's 255 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:12,080 www.mysterybridge.com there's information about me\h and some of my writings and also the information\h\h 256 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,520 about the bridges experiencers group if other\h people want to kind of network together and\h\h 257 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,440 start a chapter of bridges in their location you\h know we could exchange information and hopefully\h\h 258 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,360 we learn more about what is going on out there\h what are experiencers hearing from their guides or\h\h 259 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,360 their ets that they're in contact\h with or are there similarities\h\h 260 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,000 okay i'm i'm as as i'm talking to you um\h i'm just pulling up the website so that 261 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:47,280 mysterybridgesbridge.com okay i'm just pulling\h up the website so that people can see that that's\h\h 262 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:53,920 the actual site and there's shoe on there too and\h the yellow button is is about the experiencers\h\h 263 00:30:53,920 --> 00:31:00,000 group we're still working on the website just a\h little bit right yeah no i'm sorry i'm not there\h\h 264 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,040 because you know um i wasn't doing that great\h of a job maintaining the other website but i'm\h\h 265 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,120 glad you were able to figure it out and create\h a new one for whatever you got going well the\h\h 266 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,760 other website you made for the website you made\h us for coasties worked great for years it was\h\h 267 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:21,760 our main you know resource for on the online yeah\h it's definitely adnan anytime you're in town on a\h\h 268 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,600 second friday of the month please come be our\h guest be a speaker if you want definitely join us\h\h 269 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,520 yeah i'd love to i really would\h love to you know it's it's almost\h\h 270 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,040 you know not fair of my parents they always\h want to just take up all my time every time\h\h 271 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:42,960 in san luis they they just want to let's go\h do this do that and they just um you know i\h\h 272 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,440 i don't you know i keep telling my parents i'm\h like you know i have hundreds if not thousands\h\h 273 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,760 of friends here and i haven't even gotten to\h see one of them you know a few times that i was\h\h 274 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:58,320 able to stop by last time i still have some of\h different books you know um so i might you know\h\h 275 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,280 when i come by bring ba bring buy some boxes\h and just give it out to people that want some\h\h 276 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,280 that would be so nice yeah because what had\h happened is um because i worked for ozark\h\h 277 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:16,400 and um they sometimes write off certain books and\h then they they either literally get recycled and i\h\h 278 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:23,600 don't have the space to basically host all of them\h because sometimes it's thousands of uh books which\h\h 279 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,040 equals to hundreds of boxes and so it just broke\h my heart seeing all those having go to recycling\h\h 280 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:35,280 center so i took as many as i possibly could and\h so i think i brought like five six different boxes\h\h 281 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:41,840 with i think six seven different titles to to\h your meeting yeah and when i went to another 282 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,360 yeah you know so i have some more that are just\h you know free for everyone to to take so i'll i'll\h\h 283 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:56,000 make sure to bring some yeah they're writing off\h some more so maybe they'll be something to bring\h\h 284 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,320 bring with me uh you know some of the new\h stuff as well well uh ginger so you know\h\h 285 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:10,400 is is there is it frustrating sometimes to you\h know be constantly kind of in the seeking mode\h\h 286 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,600 you know while while maybe i mean i\h don't know if yearning is the right word\h\h 287 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,880 to say that while yearning to have the certain\h experience that you hear other people talk about\h\h 288 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,280 yeah i think sometimes i don't want to have\h the experience like on the surface level i\h\h 289 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,040 want to have it but really deep down\h i'm just too scared i'm too afraid of\h\h 290 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:38,000 what the answers are and you know so i enjoy\h you know listening to the other people and\h\h 291 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,160 learned have learned a lot from doing that and\h i really value the in-person connection with the\h\h 292 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:50,000 people but um i think i would just be too freaked\h out to have anything happen to me i'm kind of\h\h 293 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:58,000 easily frightened right but i'm so interested\h i'm so interested and adam the other thing is\h\h 294 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:04,240 and you know this this field attracts people\h who are attention seekers who maybe aren't\h\h 295 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:13,600 having experiences so much as they want to sort\h of inflate or you know come up with different\h\h 296 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,840 things that happen to just to get attention and\h that's frustrating too that that is frustrating\h\h 297 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,840 you and i have both seen around the groups every\h now and then you'll get some poor person that's\h\h 298 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,600 just lonely and so they're making stuff up and it\h can be confusing like sometimes i don't believe\h\h 299 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:33,040 everybody who shares in the group and that's\h okay i'm not there to berate or condemn them\h\h 300 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,400 but sometimes for my own reasons if somebody\h shares that they've had lots of experiences in\h\h 301 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,600 all the different fields like they've met bigfoot\h and they've seen ghosts and they're psychic\h\h 302 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,880 and they're they've met et's that's when i start\h to step back and go wait a minute right well it's\h\h 303 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,320 it's rare but possible especially knowing what i\h know that what what happens with your with your\h\h 304 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,920 brain i guess for lack of a better word you almost\h get rewired to where now you're more receptive to\h\h 305 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:04,960 to this world that's around you all the time but\h i know exactly what you mean because um see this\h\h 306 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,240 is where i always tell people it's like it's all\h about if something happened to you it happened to\h\h 307 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:16,160 you which means take the time to figure out why\h you know what's going on you know um you know\h\h 308 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,200 maybe then start you know read a book do whatever\h you feel like is the next step you need to do\h\h 309 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,920 to uh start um kind of like chasing that carrot\h because a lot of times that's what it is it's a\h\h 310 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,280 carrot you know uh put up in front of you to\h start uh getting you to go down this route\h\h 311 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,680 you know and so that's what it's important because\h it's so um because there's some people they they\h\h 312 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,840 you know they had an experience but they let's say\h for example they want to be believed and there's\h\h 313 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,840 nothing wrong with that but the point is how do\h you prove certain things you know i've experienced\h\h 314 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:56,400 you know so many other stuff but you know i\h just try to find words and ways to convey it\h\h 315 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,520 i convey to those that are interested and i move\h on you know i can't sit there like please believe\h\h 316 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,320 me you know it's like i'm telling you the truth\h you know and all of that and so i'm you know it's\h\h 317 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,880 it's more of a a journey that everyone has to\h undertake themselves instead of for it to be this\h\h 318 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,280 uh crusade that you eventually gonna have\h to end up on oprah or something like that\h\h 319 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,080 you know and and so that's what's so difficult\h to explain to some people they just yearn that\h\h 320 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,240 attention in that way you know and so\h i but i don't know you know it's like\h\h 321 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,520 all you can sometimes be whether in person or\h online or anywhere just be a voice you know not\h\h 322 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,840 be a voice be a ear to to listen to hear them\h out you know and sometimes that's all they need\h\h 323 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:51,200 right um but yeah so uh just it's some\h something that others might not understand but\h\h 324 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,080 it's san luis related so you're in\h crestwood mall is kirkwood mall demolished\h\h 325 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,800 this is chesterfield mall so crestwood\h mall is demolished and chesterfield mall\h\h 326 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:10,000 will be demolished in like two years oh wow\h okay uh yeah um so yeah all the malls are\h\h 327 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,080 dying i mean all models are getting torn\h down the building was not in great shape\h\h 328 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,240 the one that got tore down is the one i used\h to you know that was my high school hangout so\h\h 329 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,760 it's kind of sad to to uh to think about it\h is it what do they turn into a parking lot\h\h 330 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:33,920 they i i think there's a few buildings left and\h mostly parking lot now i haven't been over there\h\h 331 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,040 in a while but right across the street where they\h used to have a barnes noble probably when you were\h\h 332 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,760 in high school that's where ken and i started\h coasties in the back of that barnes and noble\h\h 333 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,720 right yeah is that barnes and noble still there\h\h 334 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:54,480 oh long gone long gone oh wow so maybe i do need\h to visit and just check it out for all time's sake\h\h 335 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,440 but yeah um so are some people that that were\h coming to coasties and some other meetings\h\h 336 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,840 have you seen them at the bridges yeah that's\h a great question we do have some of the same\h\h 337 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,920 people showed up and some you know some were\h brand new the speaker on near-death experiences\h\h 338 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,800 she kind of had her own group of people that\h she had invited who were really wanting to hear\h\h 339 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,000 about ndes so she kind of brought a group of new\h people and then they all joined the email list\h\h 340 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,720 so that they could pick out which ones\h they wanted to go to in the future\h\h 341 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,360 and you know as far as like laying out a monthly\h group like this one of the ways i look at it is\h\h 342 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,920 all i need for the year is 12 people 12 people\h willing to share that's not bad if you look at\h\h 343 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,280 it like that rather than it's not so overwhelming\h right and the person we're gonna the person that\h\h 344 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,880 we're going to have speaking this month is a\h former coasties person you might remember liz 345 00:38:53,120 --> 00:39:03,680 malkin she's uh liz burton oh yes yes yes sir yeah\h yeah she's going to share about her experiences\h\h 346 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:10,080 with angels and et's and she's had some very\h interesting personal first-hand experiences and\h\h 347 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,200 you know she's not a circuit speaker she hasn't\h written a book she doesn't want to be interviewed\h\h 348 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,240 on shows she part of her effort in sharing\h her story is she wants to meet other people\h\h 349 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:26,080 like herself she's she's lonely and wants to meet\h other people who are experiencing this as well and\h\h 350 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,920 so that's part of her motivation and sharing with\h the group right ginger excuse me one quick second\h\h 351 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,920 so for some of you watching right now um i'm just\h catching up on some details that i asked ginger\h\h 352 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,960 to come on and share and but of course today's\h open line so if you would like to speak to me\h\h 353 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,800 you can join telegram join the group and just\h raise your hand and it'll tell me in the queue\h\h 354 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,040 that you are wanting to speak to me if you don't\h raise your hand i would just assume that you're\h\h 355 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,960 using telegram to listen to it which is perfectly\h all right but uh you do have to i guess take that\h\h 356 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,320 initial step of raising your hand so i know\h that uh you're also there and wanting to speak\h\h 357 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,960 to me directly um otherwise i have no way of\h knowing so um uh so ginger what i wanted to\h\h 358 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:21,120 i guess um ask you next so is it maybe uh does\h the location also um switching it over do you\h\h 359 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,800 think that just kind of would switch the energy\h around besides just changing the subjects around\h\h 360 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,280 because really the subjects haven't really\h changed you know it's just i guess um you know\h\h 361 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:37,040 just changing their own new venue does it just\h feel like it's more constructive than the previous\h\h 362 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:43,600 meeting i think it does it's a nicer room but\h it's not there's no restaurant attached to the\h\h 363 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:49,200 to the venue there's a restaurant in the mall but\h there's no restaurant like before at the bowling\h\h 364 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,160 alley people love to go get you know snacks or\h drinks or whatever and so i was really frustrated\h\h 365 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,520 looking for a place where we could have it all you\h know where it was free rent and we could buy food\h\h 366 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,160 and we could stay as late as we wanted and they\h had the evening we went it was just impossible so\h\h 367 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,240 this is a compromise but there's a stage and\h there's a sound system and it's just a little\h\h 368 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:16,160 nicer and so i think it did bring a different\h feel and i think doing the little reading at\h\h 369 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:23,360 the beginning kind of sets the tone but um there\h were some crazy old i was looking back at some of\h\h 370 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,640 the coasties topics we did that were pretty far\h from anything we're going to be doing in bridges\h\h 371 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:36,400 um some of some of the old coasties things\h that that we did was like a topic on hoaxes\h\h 372 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,400 we did the topic of unidentified persons like\h people that were found you know in different\h\h 373 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,840 cases in history but no one knew who they\h were and they didn't know who they were um\h\h 374 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,240 we we had uh the missouri coalition for the\h environment come to present to us on nuclear\h\h 375 00:41:54,240 --> 00:42:00,240 pollution in saint louis so it was really broad\h you know i remember that actually yeah excuse\h\h 376 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:04,880 me i'm sorry to drive i just wanted to say this\h okay i remember that because i filmed that one too\h\h 377 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:11,200 and i tried um i tried to upload a few years back\h on on facebook because i was trying to find a way\h\h 378 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:19,040 because it doesn't exactly fit in with the channel\h here you know because it's more of a i guess a um\h\h 379 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:27,360 environmental thing because before you know if you\h discuss things like monsanto it's more within that\h\h 380 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,240 conspiratorial what are they\h doing and i could kind of\h\h 381 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,720 make that match to ufo hub you know about what\h else is going on you know but uh this was like\h\h 382 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:44,640 purely like hey we got uh you know nuclear waste\h buried there's a fire approaching and if it gets\h\h 383 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:50,240 burned out you know the entire midwest\h is pretty much going to have to evacuate\h\h 384 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,640 because i remember when i was i was in san luis\h during that time and i went to saint charles to\h\h 385 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,800 visit my parents and they got a pamphlet telling\h them about what to do in case of an evacuation\h\h 386 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:09,360 jeez yeah st louis is big on a lot of uh\h environmental problems like that right but you\h\h 387 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,960 know like for me personally that was all really\h cool stuff to learn about and i still want to do\h\h 388 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:21,600 that but from a more spiritual standpoint i'm just\h interested in hearing from people like you and\h\h 389 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:28,000 your listeners what kind of experiences they've\h had that aren't things that we would normally hear\h\h 390 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,640 about or talk about unless we're into this stuff\h right because i think that there is more than\h\h 391 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:39,200 meets the eye and i i want to know why we're here\h and the metaphysical aspects of the world that\h\h 392 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,160 we tell ourselves couldn't possibly be real\h and the majority of of people don't believe\h\h 393 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,680 are real i want to know what the people like\h you and your listeners are are finding out\h\h 394 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:57,520 right you know what what i loved uh especially\h on courses too um you know it it wasn't limited\h\h 395 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,320 really you know that's because i remember that one\h time uh you brought in a guest uh to to discuss\h\h 396 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,720 from his point of view about flat earth you know\h and um you know it was intriguing just to know\h\h 397 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:16,960 how people get into that mindset you know and and\h and all of that you know that was you know that's\h\h 398 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,480 what i liked about it because it wasn't you know\h a lot of people want to always draw that line in\h\h 399 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,720 the sand you know and say okay that's it i\h don't want to hear about this and you know\h\h 400 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:29,680 and so i've learned long time ago\h at least just taking the information\h\h 401 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,480 you know what are they saying and at least you'll\h have a library of some information in the back of\h\h 402 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:40,960 your head so that something does come up you're\h more educated on you know maybe commenting or\h\h 403 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,840 you know more of what you're observing and maybe\h in the future as opposed to just saying you know\h\h 404 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,000 nope nope that's it i don't want to understand\h what you're talking about it's too crazy and\h\h 405 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:57,280 then shutting it out well i think you might have\h been there we did some hands-on stuff at coasties\h\h 406 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:04,960 where we did some experiments to see you know if\h premonitions or psychic feelings could be you know\h\h 407 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,440 if we could bring those about and we did some\h fun exercises were you there for some of that\h\h 408 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,520 i don't think so um not that i can remember\h because i started i think um i think in\h\h 409 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:25,680 and oh shoot i have no idea now i think it was\h uh right you've done 12. you filmed you filmed\h\h 410 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:32,720 the missouri collision for the environment in\h 2014. okay so yes before that because i was\h\h 411 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:38,880 pretty much starting 2012 because i think\h um a lot of the um coasties i think in the\h\h 412 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:45,840 race meeting we all went to the 2012 ozark ufo\h conference we kind of all drove together down here 413 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,920 well we're going to do some hands-on\h stuff in the bridges group too\h\h 414 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,320 um coming up we're going to have a presenter\h who's had a lot of experience with dowsing\h\h 415 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,040 and she's going to share what's happened to her\h and what she's learned and we're going to do\h\h 416 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,160 just a little bit of hands-on as well right you\h know that stuff is pretty interesting though too\h\h 417 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,320 when it comes to dowsing because you know you\h think it's just these weird sticks and they're\h\h 418 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,480 flopping around and you're like this could\h mean anything but when you have a person that\h\h 419 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:24,560 i guess properly knows how to to use them you know\h it doesn't take much to learn you know to to find\h\h 420 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,760 sources of water to you know get some answers\h yes or no answers to certain stuff you know\h\h 421 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,320 i always found that intriguing too it's\h just so many different avenues for i guess\h\h 422 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,680 this consciousness to express itself 423 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,880 yeah and i see one of your listeners has\h mentioned in the youtube chat when i when\h\h 424 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,600 i said i want to know why we're here the the\h person says we're here to reconnect with source\h\h 425 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,520 and that's something i hear from experiencers\h in different ways over and over again\h\h 426 00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:03,200 right well i mean it um in this inevitable way it\h comes down to to that it's almost like the where\h\h 427 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:09,840 all the moss you know uh uh flying towards\h the light and there's only one light source 428 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,800 but for me since i have not experienced\h these things some of it sounds too wild and\h\h 429 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,840 incredulous for me to believe and i just can't\h believe it you know i'm skeptical or i'm right\h\h 430 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:28,480 it doesn't fit with my personal paradigm i used\h to always tell people about coasties that inside\h\h 431 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:36,240 coasties i'm the most skeptical person but outside\h in the real world i'm the wacko but i guess\h\h 432 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:44,400 yeah i know what you mean oh man yeah that's that\h is so true well you know it's um i don't know i\h\h 433 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:50,960 guess it's just a lot easier you know for everyone\h just take it easy learn what you want to learn you\h\h 434 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,960 know make it fun if you can you know enjoy others\h people's company and then you learn what you need\h\h 435 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,240 to learn on your journey you know to to just sit\h there hardcore go like i must do this i have to\h\h 436 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:09,440 do this it just would drive somebody nuts well and\h like i say there's people in some of these groups\h\h 437 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:16,640 definitely at coasties that i didn't really agree\h with or believe what they were saying but like you\h\h 438 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,880 say they had the right to be there and everyone\h was for the most part respectful although there\h\h 439 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:28,400 was a few little disagreements along the way but\h um definitely there's you know we don't have to\h\h 440 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:36,160 believe all of it well no right i mean the whole\h point is to the the different it's i guess it's um\h\h 441 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:44,560 that's the thing that comes with these\h different um out-of-worldly out-of-body uh uh\h\h 442 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:52,800 weird experiences that the the concept of of the\h whole idea is so weird that it then of course\h\h 443 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,800 attracts all other weirdness too you know and so\h of course you know there's somebody that might\h\h 444 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:05,920 want to convey the near-death experience and\h just conveyed the most you know because sometimes\h\h 445 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,720 these on these different realms like there's\h no time you don't know exactly what's what's\h\h 446 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:15,600 first second third you know you kind of have\h to it's all discombobulated and bring it all in\h\h 447 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,640 right you have to find words to explain that and\h then here you are struggling with that and and\h\h 448 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,480 you know then you have some other person just\h you know out of nowhere they're like the son\h\h 449 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:31,600 is talking to me you know it's like right you\h know it's like man just i get that everything\h\h 450 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:37,440 is possible but as so right now to this level\h of understanding of humanity can we like not go\h\h 451 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,920 fully you know wacko out there it's like let's\h take it one step at a time you know i mean just\h\h 452 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:51,520 now for for pete's sake the government you know\h in a soft disclosure way didn't didn't deny ufos\h\h 453 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,360 they didn't approve of them you know they but\h they didn't deny them either so it's like the\h\h 454 00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,480 beginning of something you know it's like\h can we can we start off easy here you know 455 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,600 well and you and i are in an interesting\h position because if you think about like the\h\h 456 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,520 people that started studying ufos in the 40s\h or you know 50s people like stanton friedman\h\h 457 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:19,440 some of them have passed away now and they never\h got to see this moment but you and i have kind\h\h 458 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,800 of been following for you know years and now\h now we're getting to see it but the new people\h\h 459 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:30,800 coming brand new young people coming into ufo\h interest they have no idea what it used to be like\h\h 460 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:38,000 right right you know that's true well you know\h i did notice especially at the ozark conference\h\h 461 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,040 there's a lot more younger people that are\h interested because i always thought it's the you\h\h 462 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:49,840 know later in life um you know past midlife crisis\h type people that are just like okay i don't care\h\h 463 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,880 what my family thinks i don't care what my friends\h think i don't care what people at work say this is\h\h 464 00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:00,080 what i'm interested in this is what i'm doing type\h thing so it's always people that pretty much had\h\h 465 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,120 nothing else to lose because when you're younger\h you're still believing things like prestige and\h\h 466 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,960 standing in society and you know are you respected\h by others you know how uh you know how are the\h\h 467 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:17,600 people viewing you and so personally i was very\h fortunate that i gave up on that very very early\h\h 468 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,320 you know so it allowed me to just pursue all\h the things that others wouldn't even look into\h\h 469 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,880 you know so anyway what i was wanting to say\h so i'm glad that there's more younger people\h\h 470 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,120 there's like yeah wow i'm so fascinated with the\h subject you know and i wanted to come and see this\h\h 471 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:37,280 speaker and then they're like oh yeah you ended\h up basically going all three days and so um you\h\h 472 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,640 know i'm glad that there's going to be a renewed\h interest because i remember a long time ago many\h\h 473 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:48,240 years ago i was listening to coast to coast and\h george and ori was talking to a guest and said\h\h 474 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:54,560 where's the next generation of ufologists you\h know who's going to be kind of you know taking\h\h 475 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,840 the torch and continuing you know and i remember\h thinking about that i was like yeah all these\h\h 476 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:06,240 people that are old then are definitely older now\h are gone you know and so yes you know i'm glad\h\h 477 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:12,720 that you know although what i do now as a result\h of a download you know in in hindsight you know it\h\h 478 00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:19,280 kind of creates that next you know platform in\h a way for all this weird [ __ ] you know to be\h\h 479 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:25,280 able to be to discuss you know just you have some\h weird stuff going on you have a place to go to\h\h 480 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:30,880 where you know unfortunately mainstream media\h they always have a agenda to continue you know\h\h 481 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,920 always say a mindset about certain things to to\h you know be projected you know because for the\h\h 482 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,800 longest time they would always you know ah you're\h a force hahaha let's move on to the news you know\h\h 483 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,960 to weather or whatever you know they never really\h would spend the time to hear somebody out and tell\h\h 484 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,560 them the most craziest [ __ ] that they've never\h heard before you know and uh to start somewhere\h\h 485 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,600 i mean look at the travis walton story you know\h it's like if he was just an experiencer trying to\h\h 486 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:05,520 convey the story everybody's like wow that's too\h crazy but i guess because they still look you know\h\h 487 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:12,960 to police and authority and you know lie detectors\h and all these things to be this credible way of\h\h 488 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,840 confirming something you know if he didn't have\h that that story would have died a long time ago 489 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:26,560 because it involved the police and the police\h yes right and he was gone but like five days\h\h 490 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:34,800 you know so um and even then still really\h other than the story and his disappearance\h\h 491 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,960 and and eyewitnesses and state being\h involved and sharers being involved\h\h 492 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,400 there was no other proof you can take back with\h you you know for someone to look at something\h\h 493 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,160 and say oh wow you're telling the truth you\h i guess you were really on a you know an\h\h 494 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:54,960 alien ship so you know it's that's that's always\h going to be the truth i do think the younger\h\h 495 00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:00,160 generation right now is more open-minded to it\h than probably any previous generation like you say\h\h 496 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,840 maybe they're not rushing to the conferences and\h the groups just yet but they're more open to it\h\h 497 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:13,040 right well yeah no yeah definitely open i would\h still want to say nothing to lose you know because\h\h 498 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:20,400 you know they um i remember during my time you\h know everyone it was all about how you were viewed\h\h 499 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:26,880 by others and where you respected that was the\h mindset you know it was all about being proper\h\h 500 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:34,000 you know don't cuss you know be polite smile when\h you meet somebody greet people first you know or\h\h 501 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,400 you know be be engaged when somebody's greeting\h you it's rude to not pay attention you see all\h\h 502 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,160 these things that i mean i still continue teaching\h that to my kids because you know my son will often\h\h 503 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:49,360 you know walk into a room or something and just\h sit down and i would call him out i was like um do\h\h 504 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,680 you have something to say and then he was like oh\h i'm sorry i'll get up and say hello everyone you\h\h 505 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,960 know and so on and just be polite i was like when\h you're entering a room it might not be something\h\h 506 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,600 that you think about but as your parent this is\h what i would like you to do it's like it's polite\h\h 507 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,880 you make you you know you announce yourself and\h you you paid respect to the other people whether\h\h 508 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:14,000 or not they pay their respect to you that's their\h problem but at least you were you know this um\h\h 509 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:22,640 you know you were you were being uh a person\h that says hey i can be approached you know and\h\h 510 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,520 i think a lot of times with the younger generation\h that's what's so difficult they'll just want them\h\h 511 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,840 you know sit there and text back and forth\h and if they have something if they have\h\h 512 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,800 you know where during my time and of course your\h time ginger if there's a feeling i needed to\h\h 513 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:43,040 express i'd just express it now they're just like\h you know you know heart heart smiley face you know\h\h 514 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:50,240 hand clap something and scent they go this is\h what i feel like you know and so um it's i mean\h\h 515 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,360 it's a different world i'm not blaming it because\h i definitely don't want to be you know in during\h\h 516 00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,640 the time where you know pre-internet where oh my\h goodness if you did not stick to the time that\h\h 517 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:09,120 you agreed upon to meet your friend that you\h you you got chewed on afterwards right there'd\h\h 518 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,680 be no way to make contact and yeah you couldn't\h just text them and say you were going to be late\h\h 519 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:21,440 yeah or so if something something else happened\h i mean i remember uh um i mean uh just just the\h\h 520 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:28,560 amazing way that you know just uh connections were\h made you know because i remember so when we first\h\h 521 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:34,560 you know fled from bosnia to germany you know we\h had no contact or no idea where anyone else was\h\h 522 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:41,600 but what happened was if one person had a contact\h right and let's say they um somehow made a\h\h 523 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,960 connection with their relatives there they would\h then make sure that all the relatives would you\h\h 524 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,800 know get everyone's name and everyone that's there\h to then convey to the other person on the other\h\h 525 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,360 line who is there and if they read out a name\h that somebody knows then they know they connected\h\h 526 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:04,240 with the relay anyway the point is within like a\h week or two through that really [ __ ] up network\h\h 527 00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:09,360 we managed to basically find out who else\h went where you know and so when we were done\h\h 528 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:17,280 some of my family members were in southern germany\h others fled to um austria others um went to\h\h 529 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:23,040 luxembourg you know and all these other places but\h we connected that way that was in the 90s you know\h\h 530 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:29,280 i can't imagine you know and some kids nowadays\h can't imagine how do you even establish if you\h\h 531 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:36,240 don't have somebody's you know um you know um you\h know snapchat account or facebook you know account\h\h 532 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:42,320 or all of that stuff you know so having had that\h experience i love the internet you know and what\h\h 533 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,960 it gives so you know i can't expect ex expect a\h new generation to understand it but you know with\h\h 534 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:55,120 all the bad things that it comes with it does more\h good than bad you know it's like i'd rather stick\h\h 535 00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,000 to where we are now you know because you know\h i was telling you know sometimes we mess around\h\h 536 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,280 my wife and i with our oldest son and we're like\h you know if we wondered what our friend was doing\h\h 537 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:11,600 right now we wouldn't know sometimes for weeks\h until we saw them again you know you know and it's\h\h 538 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,960 like you know because then they they just text\h them or call them or you know one of the bazillion\h\h 539 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,120 different ways to get in touch with each other\h and they immediately are connected you know where\h\h 540 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:28,160 we had to kind of you know i guess the phrase\h uh absence grows makes the heart grow fonder\h\h 541 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:35,200 was more prevalent for our lives than it ever\h will be in theirs oh yeah and you know they're\h\h 542 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,720 they're never going to know what it's like to\h have to read books and take notes to do a report\h\h 543 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:46,160 that type of critical thinking unfortunately i\h think that is a loss but on the other hand like\h\h 544 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:51,920 you said we want to go in a progressive direction\h and we want to evolve as human beings and i think\h\h 545 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,240 one thing that could be said about the\h younger generation is they're much better\h\h 546 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,760 at talking about their feelings than we were\h it wasn't encouraged when we were growing up\h\h 547 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:08,320 to talk about emotions or feelings or you know to\h be emotionally aware and intelligent like they are\h\h 548 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:14,480 and i think that could be part of where things are\h going as a species too that were you know these\h\h 549 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:19,680 younger people like remember they used to talk\h about the indigo children yeah and people being\h\h 550 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:25,360 being more intuitive and more psychic and i think\h we're seeing some of those kids growing up now\h\h 551 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:33,840 right right you know uh you know it's um it's\h very interesting you know too you know talking\h\h 552 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:39,120 about these weird subjects uh my wife and i were\h taking a totally different approach to when it\h\h 553 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:45,280 comes to um you know i mean of course we raise our\h children in the way to a large extent the way we\h\h 554 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:50,560 were raised about you know you know politeness\h respect and all these set of things but we also\h\h 555 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:56,080 something that my parents never did is you know we\h take the time to understand how they do things you\h\h 556 00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:03,120 know and so um especially like so um i hold the\h sun just to give you an example so our oldest son\h\h 557 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:11,760 and you know we we got um you know i did we did\h one of the the readings with um oh goodness i\h\h 558 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:18,160 just had us a guess not that long ago she did\h numerology um sally fabian anyway so she was\h\h 559 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:24,560 giving us um a breakdown of all all the different\h you know of all our children and about how each\h\h 560 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:30,640 one is you know what makes them tick you know\h and it was very much true about our oldest son\h\h 561 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:37,680 it's like she said you know it's like it doesn't\h matter what you you know um because we of course\h\h 562 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,520 every time something goes bad we immediately want\h to say like you [ __ ] up this is what you did\h\h 563 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:47,440 wrong you know but she was saying with with you\h know our oldest is specifically praising him for\h\h 564 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,360 the things he's done well you know and letting him\h know that he's that he did well and then you know\h\h 565 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:59,120 you know point out the other things that we would\h like for him to work on because when it comes to\h\h 566 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:07,120 being seen valued or respected is\h by having that praise built into\h\h 567 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:15,280 this constructive conversation you know and so\h for him praising first then criticizing second you\h\h 568 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,520 know and it works i mean he's you know 14 i mean\h 13 now but going to be 14 and what a difference it\h\h 569 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:27,280 made because he just doesn't feel like a constant\h failure if we only bring out the things that that\h\h 570 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:33,040 you know we need to criticize him about well\h anyway and so of course the the middle child\h\h 571 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,680 he's on the other hand is different you know to\h him it's like you have to explain to him while\h\h 572 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,640 you're telling him what you needed to tell him\h so it's slightly different you have to give him\h\h 573 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,600 explanation and and tell him you know i need\h you to do this because of this reason and then\h\h 574 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:52,320 he'll go and do it you know whereas before he\h would just be this most stubborn child you've\h\h 575 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:57,760 ever met you know and that wasn't clear to us we\h just thought he wanted to be you know defiant no\h\h 576 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,800 matter what and so we're taking these approaches\h you know to heart and really keeping that in\h\h 577 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:08,240 mind moving forward because we noticed a huge\h difference in just a slight shift in parenting\h\h 578 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,720 in that way now of course the youngest one\h she's only two months so we'll see what\h\h 579 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:19,840 what um you know how that will work out but right\h now she's you know worried about sleeping and food\h\h 580 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,880 well kudos to you and your wife for taking all\h that to heart and caring enough to you know\h\h 581 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,280 communicate with your kids god if more people\h would have done that during our generation i\h\h 582 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:36,320 think we would have turned out a lot better right\h well ginger i'm sorry i just realized what time\h\h 583 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,880 it was you have to go but thank you very much\h again just real quick give me place and time\h\h 584 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:47,520 and then we'll i'll catch you up yeah anybody\h locally here in the greater st louis area the\h\h 585 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:54,960 second friday of every month 7 p.m chesterfield\h mall second floor next to macy's and thank you\h\h 586 01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:03,920 so much adnan i hope to see you soon thank you\h ginger we'll stay in touch okay bye bye bye okay\h\h 587 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:15,840 so um let me just see who is in chat real quick\h so 522 hello um learning to love 111 hello welcome\h\h 588 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:28,320 uh stop brother welcome mario kart welcome cool\h name um okay let me shift over to niels niels\h\h 589 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,880 you are unmuted and mute yourself\h and you'll be able to speak 590 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:39,920 niels can you hear me 591 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:48,560 it's a joy to be talking to you how are you oh\h just fine i i was wasn't sure if you stepped\h\h 592 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:55,120 away for a second i'm here everybody so um i\h just wanted uh i just came to me uh two things\h\h 593 01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:01,760 obviously um are there you know is there bigfoot\h is is that a possibility and what that's all about\h\h 594 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,280 but also when i started dwelling\h a bit more i i wanted to talk to\h\h 595 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,480 you about uh reincarnation do\h you believe in reincarnation\h\h 596 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:15,840 yeah it's i mean it's not a belief it's knowing\h you know when i had my near-death experience i had\h\h 597 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:22,320 some some some messages conveyed to me regarding\h that so it's it's definitely ingrained in my being\h\h 598 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:29,680 yeah one of the um stories that uh i saw on\h youtube and i'll briefly tell you it so this\h\h 599 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:38,080 young boy i was born in united states there and\h uh so he uh he always went on as he got older\h\h 600 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:47,040 started giving more information uh basically about\h his previous life and long story short he was um\h\h 601 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:56,400 an airplane pilot and he was shot down and uh so\h throughout his life he was able to say like um you\h\h 602 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:01,200 know i was a red plane and that was his name and\h he was from this home and all the stuff he kept\h\h 603 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:07,280 going on and on with his uh with his um parents\h and his family so it's finally his father went\h\h 604 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:13,360 to look into it and uh they went back to the home\h that he said he was from he was able to describe\h\h 605 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:19,680 the picket fence the white picket fence the uh\h the home the dog the name of mother and all that\h\h 606 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:27,120 the name of his plane and i think that his hard\h drive wasn't totally um wiped before he was put\h\h 607 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:34,880 into a new body and then it gets into like um with\h uh with buddha basically before the dalai i think\h\h 608 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:44,000 before he passes away he picks a color\h and a shape and a couple other things\h\h 609 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,360 and basically the next one who's going to be his\h successor has to choose that and he passes away\h\h 610 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,760 that exact combination it becomes the next level\h\h 611 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:59,520 right so you know i'm familiar with that\h with that story of that of that kid you just\h\h 612 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:05,600 mentioned it's i i watch it yeah it's like a short\h documentary on it it's it's actually pretty cool\h\h 613 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,960 yeah it's excellent another thing too that i'm\h going to talk about obviously i want to give a\h\h 614 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:19,360 shout out to dr johnny mac what an absolute legend\h guy was uh incredible ahead of his time and uh\h\h 615 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,320 really interested look into all his documentaries\h and all the things he had to say really take some\h\h 616 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,600 time to learn about him and who he is the person\h and what he did for you know the human race it's\h\h 617 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:36,560 incredible but uh the best one ever is um 62\h children that were on recess in zimbabwe in\h\h 618 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:42,160 the 80s and uh cracking down right that one\h was the best and these beings came out and\h\h 619 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:48,640 spoke you know telepathy through their eyes\h and gave them messages with their minds\h\h 620 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,800 right with telepathy on that level so that's\h that's where we have to be in that dimension\h\h 621 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,720 right um neil you're going in and out a little\h bit i mean you're clear but sometimes you're close\h\h 622 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:04,320 and sometimes you're far from the mic if um can\h you maybe keep it consistent if possible please\h\h 623 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,280 i'll try to try to do that okay\h thanks very much i appreciate it\h\h 624 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:17,120 just make sure for those listening for sure and\h i just want to talk about uh bigfoot because\h\h 625 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:23,680 um i think the species these beings i think\h there's my intuition said there's 400 there\h\h 626 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:30,960 could be more um in north america alone and uh\h you know some you know for instance less drought\h\h 627 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:38,240 of uh survivor man i don't know if you're familiar\h with that show but uh he's he's he's adamant that\h\h 628 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:46,960 uh that when he was out in british columbia in\h canada he uh he heard these ape-like beasts and\h\h 629 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:54,080 there's a lot of i've had people send me you know\h footprints and a lot of stories a lot of sightings\h\h 630 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,960 you know you know there's just so much\h just there has to be something there\h\h 631 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:07,840 and i really think that we should really uh really\h look into this in a sincere mature way and really\h\h 632 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:12,560 see like is this really reality like\h is all this just hocus pocus or is this\h\h 633 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:19,520 are these actual beings here you know they're\h you know 600 800 pounds eight feet tall\h\h 634 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:27,920 telepathic beings they their families just like us\h uh could they be in contact with the star people\h\h 635 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:35,520 quite quite possibly um yeah their telepathic\h beings are connected i think to the uh you\h\h 636 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,200 know the spirit world and that you know the\h higher dimensions or whatever other dimensions\h\h 637 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:46,320 and uh that's just one of my things i want to\h know for sure you know are are these beings\h\h 638 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:52,160 for real because i've called him before and i've\h told you that that i've spoken to you know star\h\h 639 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:58,640 people that are eight or nine feet tall kind of\h thing and have a lot of um a lot of meditation c5\h\h 640 01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:05,680 great pyramid initiations uh and uh just really\h went out there and see what's possible and you\h\h 641 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:11,600 know the star people are here uh crafts are here\h they're way more advanced than we are but you\h\h 642 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:16,400 know is there is their book bigfoot i know hundred\h percent star people are here because i've met them\h\h 643 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:21,600 and talked to them and had one in my my bedroom\h and he was just smiling like you would not believe\h\h 644 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:29,200 like the smile lines on his um his eyes look like\h you've been smiling for 200 years and um he was\h\h 645 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,600 just there when the morning sun just the sun was\h coming into my room and he was standing there\h\h 646 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:39,040 smiling beaming at me and so there's no doubt\h in my mind that they're here and there's nothing\h\h 647 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:44,160 anything i can do about it right just it just uh\h fact life for me you know i guess well you know 648 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,720 i'm sorry i was just going to say you\h know you know definitely that's um\h\h 649 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:56,320 that's one of my next things you know the same\h way um uh i'm definitely going to leave the\h\h 650 01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:01,840 psychedelics out this time around when i was first\h searching my answers you know long long time ago\h\h 651 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:10,320 regarding aliens and ufos but that's definitely\h going to be coming up my next focus because i'm\h\h 652 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:15,280 trying to work out everything i need with\h everything i've got going on in my life\h\h 653 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:22,240 so i can concentrate on actually then\h looking into um this more of a bigfoot\h\h 654 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:30,320 and what what wha what state of mind i need\h to really get to to have more interactions or\h\h 655 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,520 more experiences in that way because especially\h for where i live it's very secluded in the woods\h\h 656 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:41,920 and it would be the ideal place to just just\h come from the place of wanting to understand more\h\h 657 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,600 but that's definitely going to be my next focus\h you know it's something i've been contemplating\h\h 658 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:51,280 about now it's a bit different because before i\h was just by myself but now i have you know full\h\h 659 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:58,960 house of kids and family so i'm you know i'm not\h like cautious because of some kind of danger but\h\h 660 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:04,320 i don't uh whatever is happening i don't want\h to get them involved as of right now i just want\h\h 661 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:10,320 them still be kids do their thing and just enjoy\h their lives without having to deal with you know\h\h 662 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,880 these uh big hairy monsters that\h live in the woods off our property 663 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,920 yeah it gets it my family gets involved\h it's not just you know it's not a you know\h\h 664 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:27,920 you think a lot of things are just about\h you you know um but it's like especially\h\h 665 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:36,320 you know i i was you know the different beings\h that you know i felt were around and the few\h\h 666 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:42,160 that that i've seen my outer body experiences and\h the things i've experienced um you know they were\h\h 667 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:48,800 respectful enough to not over do things you know\h of course my wife and oldest you know have seen\h\h 668 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,680 crafts over the house where we live now\h and all these other things but it wasn't\h\h 669 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:59,040 creating that big of an issue and a problem for\h the family you know to where we could still move\h\h 670 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:04,800 on and just do what we got to do you know but\h uh so i don't know how how disruptive or not\h\h 671 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:10,480 disruptive more of a bigfoot encounters would be\h so that always makes me a little bit more cautious\h\h 672 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,160 yeah it's really when you think about it if\h you're having crafts over top of you and all\h\h 673 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:22,640 these experiences you just really have to just you\h know just be calm and at peace and just think how\h\h 674 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:28,000 incredible that is that you're you're able to\h experience that and that's reality for you right\h\h 675 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,600 uh in terms of bigfoot i really think if you know\h if we're gonna if we're gonna or if you wanna meet\h\h 676 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:39,200 them when you go out there i really think that\h you have to prepare for it right you have to do\h\h 677 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:44,960 i think you should be doing meditations\h and prayer and good deeds and uh fasting\h\h 678 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:52,800 and um just working on your higher self really\h your state of mind is very important it's like the\h\h 679 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:58,560 number one thing is your state of mind yeah you\h have to go in there to be at on that level right\h\h 680 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:04,720 uh on their level so that they can have you know\h telepathic conversations with you or you're open\h\h 681 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:11,040 to you know interdimensional phenomena or you know\h a glitch in the matrix whatever you want to call\h\h 682 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:18,400 it right it's one of the there's one story that\h really is popping my mind right now is um these\h\h 683 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:25,200 this uh these two sasquatches in there and they\h had a family they had a baby and uh they live\h\h 684 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:33,520 underneath um a dam basically on this property\h and uh the owners basically smashed the dam and\h\h 685 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:42,000 flooded their their home and so basically the uh\h the sasquatch went into their home and started\h\h 686 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:48,160 causing a ruckus in there and brought in all these\h like rocks and put them everywhere on their home\h\h 687 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,280 and so obviously the family that owned\h the home was distraught and had to leave\h\h 688 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:58,320 and would show up with guns and everything\h so this information got out there and some\h\h 689 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:04,080 some women in the uh i guess the bigfoot community\h or spiritual community whatever whoever they are\h\h 690 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,160 they uh they all got a contract they went\h visited and there was like this um dog type\h\h 691 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:15,280 like egyptian deity that all of a sudden uh\h manifest in front of them and like kind of\h\h 692 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:22,640 walked along them and then disappeared so as they\h got to the uh the property basically the one lady\h\h 693 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:28,560 who i guess she specialized in this she basically\h just wanted to go for a walk and you know feel out\h\h 694 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:34,480 the area and see if anything came to her basically\h the information came to her that that in fact the\h\h 695 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:41,600 the bigfoot were uh upset that they had destroyed\h their home and that's why they did all these\h\h 696 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:48,880 peculiar things neil just real quick uh so you do\h know i talked to that gal her name is cindy carter\h\h 697 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:56,400 is that what is that where i heard it from maybe\h yeah cause i was gonna say uh i'm pretty sure this\h\h 698 01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:01,200 was about two months ago i was just looking it up\h i'm like yeah it was two months ago yeah no that\h\h 699 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:07,200 was cindy carter because uh the we did a two-part\h uh part one who are the sasquatch and more and\h\h 700 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:14,320 then we did why the sasquatch part two oh that's\h i i just i'm just so happy thank you so much for\h\h 701 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,080 going out there getting the information and\h sharing it all and everything you do it's just uh\h\h 702 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:23,760 just incredible i thought you were messing with me\h there for a second i was like yeah you brought you\h\h 703 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:28,960 yeah i don't know i thought you were testing me\h or something you know because you were literally\h\h 704 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,840 recalling the story she was telling but anyway\h so yeah i know it's probably here you heard it\h\h 705 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:40,320 yeah and uh so interesting how you know if\h there's bigfoot most likely they're connected\h\h 706 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:47,280 to star people right like i'd imagine they are\h yeah a lot of the a lot of the uh people i've\h\h 707 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:53,840 talked to they always come down to a connection\h to um uh to to the star people but it's actually\h\h 708 01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:01,440 they're their own race too they're basically\h um you know developed uh develo they\h\h 709 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:09,040 basically from everything that i've heard it was\h basically that if the un if there was no alter\h\h 710 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:17,200 creation of mixing of alien and and the hominin on\h the planet at that time mixing the dna uh that's\h\h 711 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:22,160 uh uh unaltered strained that would\h be what we consider bigfoot today 712 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:31,040 yeah i think it's a pretty good possibility but\h until you know like for your own experience and\h\h 713 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:37,520 the rules oh no doubt and you just know that that\h it's real that's that's what i need to go with\h\h 714 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,800 the bigfoot you know what i mean yeah just to my\h discovery of what is real and what is not in this\h\h 715 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:49,280 dimension you know right right so neil let me just\h tell everyone else watching so if you would like\h\h 716 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:57,760 to um uh pop on and talk to me and share your\h story uh right now i have neil's and uh so uh\h\h 717 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,880 go ahead and just download your telegram i'm sorry\h neil told him one second i'm just talking to the\h\h 718 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:11,920 audience real quick i apologize um so anyway uh\h you can download telegram uh the link to the ufo\h\h 719 01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:19,520 hub telegram group is in the description so\h um just log in join the group and you should\h\h 720 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:26,480 be able to see the voice chat going on now and\h you can just as you see on the screen join the\h\h 721 01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:31,440 rest of the peeps either to listen or just raise\h your hand like neil did earlier and that means\h\h 722 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:36,640 you want to talk to me and then i\h know that have you in the queue next\h\h 723 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,120 otherwise i'll just um you know chill and\h talk to niels and we'll discuss whatever\h\h 724 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,880 else we discuss until we kind of run out\h of topics which i doubt that would happen\h\h 725 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:51,840 but anyway so don't be shy if you want to\h share your story um you know let me know and um\h\h 726 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:58,320 sure enough jim jim jams wants to also come on so\h nils let's chat just a little bit more before i\h\h 727 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:05,200 bring in jim i encourage everybody to uh to\h sign in and share their story and uh have a\h\h 728 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,840 great time thanks so much for well you don't have\h to you're gonna have to get off right now i wanted\h\h 729 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:17,120 to ask you something first how yeah so i don't\h remember i think we talked a while back i don't\h\h 730 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:22,240 remember how long ago exactly was but what was it\h that initially got you into any of these topics 731 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:34,160 um really i i grew up in uh in the united\h church up here in canada and um every sunday\h\h 732 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:40,080 it's incredible you know ministers and information\h but always you know in the bible always i always\h\h 733 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:46,320 just thought there's got to be more to it like\h you know seeing the milky way and uh you know\h\h 734 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:53,280 aurora borealis and uh people who spoke phenomena\h i just always thought there was way more to it and\h\h 735 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:59,840 it just went from there it really was just like\h what is what is possible what is it to be human\h\h 736 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:08,480 you know is you know telekinesis or telepathy or\h reincarnation near-death experiences star people\h\h 737 01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:17,600 bigfoot uh you know advanced civilizations you\h know you know metaphysics quantum physics like oh\h\h 738 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,360 you know what is this really all about and\h it's just all you know for me it's like\h\h 739 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:27,600 experiencing and just trying to discover what what\h the highest possibilities you know like you know\h\h 740 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:32,400 people should be doing ayahuasca and doing\h that you know properly with the shamans and\h\h 741 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:38,880 i think that'd be really great for uh for\h the plant humanity and really you know we\h\h 742 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,200 have to clean up the planet big time but\h first picture camp ourselves too right so 743 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,720 did your family or friends\h uh think you were being weird\h\h 744 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,080 getting into these different subjects\h so did you pretty much keep it aside\h\h 745 01:19:53,920 --> 01:20:03,120 no no uh like with my my sweetheart you know she\h was there when the uh you know there's 4k there's\h\h 746 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:09,600 10k you know tv this was like a thousand k you\h know object coming down right over top of us\h\h 747 01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:16,000 so there's no no turning back and you know if\h i just say how it is dude like my whole life i\h\h 748 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:22,960 just you know this is who i am you know this is\h what happened and uh i just share with them and\h\h 749 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:29,520 yeah the family oh they said weird or difficult\h to you know for them to really understand that or\h\h 750 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:34,720 think that's possible but um i'm not holding\h back why would i hold back i just you know\h\h 751 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:42,960 that's what happened that's what's going on\h so you know i'm glad you didn't there's not\h\h 752 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,280 much i can do like with these beings you know\h the beings that that froze my friends right\h\h 753 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:53,120 um there's not much we can do these beings are for\h instance you know star people for instance they're\h\h 754 01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:00,400 way more advanced than we are right you know\h technologically spiritually right you know uh so\h\h 755 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:06,000 i'm like okay well i'm you know i think a little\h bit better than a chimpanzee or an ape or whatnot\h\h 756 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:10,080 right we're quite we're different species more\h advanced than they are but clearly these beings\h\h 757 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,800 are coming here and could just come through your\h wall you know and just like taking on their ship\h\h 758 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:21,840 like or like disable nuclear silos or who knows\h you know you know these beings are way more events\h\h 759 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:28,080 than we are and i think we really need to be\h you know being our best behavior you know what\h\h 760 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:33,600 i mean to be smart about about this and uh you\h know i think this could change the world right\h\h 761 01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:39,440 i think this is like the time where you know\h these beings are here to help us like there's\h\h 762 01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:48,480 incredible um reverend in um united states and\h basically he had to go in for a surgery and uh the\h\h 763 01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:54,000 night before the surgery these beings came being\h came to him and shined his uh put his hand up to\h\h 764 01:21:54,000 --> 01:22:00,640 him like the chi through the hand he shined a blue\h uh light onto his um where he's going to have the\h\h 765 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:08,320 surgery and it was a tumor and basically it uh\h it was gone and they labeled it a medical miracle\h\h 766 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:14,400 so you know there's so many different things that\h these uh beings are doing here and it's uh there's\h\h 767 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,040 a whole plethora of them you know different\h i guess different levels of consciousness or\h\h 768 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:26,080 different levels of um you know projects or\h missions or our needs or or whatever it is you\h\h 769 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:33,280 know and possibly they're they're involved with\h uh you know hybrid hybridization so obviously um\h\h 770 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:40,000 you know with our dna and procreation and\h all that further further race i think that's\h\h 771 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:46,640 possibility here uh from what i've learned so\h it's this is interesting what the the this is\h\h 772 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:53,200 out there you know well you know uh just recently\h um i uploaded a video that i did with reid summers\h\h 773 01:22:53,760 --> 01:23:00,640 and um he's the son of marshall summers that uh\h started the what's now known as the allies of\h\h 774 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:08,720 humanity briefings and it's i think a volume of\h four books and um anyway what's interesting is\h\h 775 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:15,040 that you know their message was a bit different\h than what i agree with you know but to me it\h\h 776 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:20,160 doesn't matter you know i want information to go\h out there i don't want to be i always said i don't\h\h 777 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:25,280 want to be the gatekeeper information just because\h i might not agree with it hundred percent or\h\h 778 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:31,360 only 50 doesn't mean i shouldn't have somebody on\h and i do that often because i think that's what\h\h 779 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:37,760 putting putting information out there for us\h others to discern for themselves is all about you\h\h 780 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:45,280 know and um his approach was it's basically kind\h of more cautious about that there's this group of\h\h 781 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:54,880 these different aliens that are warning us through\h by kind of not wanting to be known kind of trying\h\h 782 01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:01,680 to be the whistleblowers that can't be divulged\h or who they truly are to to say hey there's other\h\h 783 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:07,600 alien races that don't have the best intentions in\h mind you know and so anyway it's it is a bit more\h\h 784 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:13,440 uh from this if you look at the perspective of all\h love and light it's all good you know a bit more\h\h 785 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:21,120 um i guess fearful not it's not that they intended\h to be more fearful but it's it's more of a measure\h\h 786 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:27,040 message of caution and it's just so interesting\h is that so many years that i've had people on\h\h 787 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:32,880 and they talk about this positive message of all\h these um not necessarily the ones that are doing\h\h 788 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,720 the various things that are in touch with the\h government but i'm talking about the others that\h\h 789 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:42,560 just want to bring to the table what they have\h all those years of that kind of information it's\h\h 790 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:48,560 always kind of taken with the grain of salt but\h the second he was representing it in more this uh\h\h 791 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:54,560 more this darker way everyone was taking that in\h more comments like yeah this is what i believe and\h\h 792 01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:01,360 you know this is a more uh level-headed you\h know thing i've seen online in a while and all\h\h 793 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:07,600 of that it's somehow it's like so if you told\h the the the airy fairy news and everything is\h\h 794 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:12,320 fine it's like i don't believe it but if you put\h some fear into it you know everybody's on board\h\h 795 01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:18,880 with it it's just so unfortunate we as humans\h are just wired that way too to be more prone\h\h 796 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:26,320 and attracted to more of you know i guess not\h negative information but i guess for lack of a\h\h 797 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:33,920 better word more negative in mind compared to the\h all love and light only type you know messages 798 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:42,800 yeah it's well it's it's difficult for\h ben to accept what we're discussing is\h\h 799 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:48,240 real possibilities that's taking place is\h reality so they go into a state of fear\h\h 800 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:55,360 try because it's difficult for them to you\h know to accept that uh this is what it is so\h\h 801 01:25:56,480 --> 01:26:02,720 um you know it's you have to people are in\h fear because they're not in love and light\h\h 802 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:09,120 like you said and uh but we still we should still\h remain cautious right um you know i i believe\h\h 803 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:14,240 that there's all kinds of range of intents and\h you know projects here right that they're doing\h\h 804 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:20,240 but i mean if they're able to travel here with\h just you know using a conscious come through\h\h 805 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:25,120 your wall there really isn't much that we can\h do so it's you know it's humbling in a sense\h\h 806 01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:32,560 so well i guess it all uh it came down\h to the very simple point that well um 807 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:42,080 that where a lot of us for example know about\h abductions but through the work of dolores\h\h 808 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:49,200 cannon you know and other channelers have been\h you know delved deeper into each hypnosis and\h\h 809 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:54,000 brought about the information from the\h higher self of this person themselves\h\h 810 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,760 and even the source which i don't know\h if that's referring to god or the overall\h\h 811 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:05,360 you know source energy you know bringing about\h information that it's not a you know it's um\h\h 812 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:10,160 they're willing participants in this\h program and it brought more understanding\h\h 813 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:15,040 to it whereas in others like david jacobs\h would just stick to on that emotional level\h\h 814 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:19,120 and all they're doing is during the hypnosis\h is just recalling their emotions again\h\h 815 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:24,880 and freaking out and there's no more understanding\h all they're doing is just again reliving this\h\h 816 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:32,320 memory that they fear but it doesn't come\h with any more information and so of course it\h\h 817 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:38,320 leaves him in this negative state of mind and so\h anyway then at the end of the day again you have\h\h 818 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:45,680 to discern for yourself you can still then say\h you know well who say that this information that\h\h 819 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:51,280 let's say came through to this deeper diving\h into the hypnosis is also some kind of false\h\h 820 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:56,880 information you know but then if you consider\h that then all these other things that were\h\h 821 01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:03,280 that came out that were so good you know that\h helped people out i mean we're talking about\h\h 822 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:10,080 i personally met a gal and i think there's a video\h for out there because i recorded it but it was\h\h 823 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,840 created for the quantum hypnosis healing technique\h\h 824 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:21,120 and so she was on her deathbed she was she was\h dying she only had i don't know how very short\h\h 825 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:28,400 period to live and she did one session which one\h session is all you need for this qhht that was\h\h 826 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:35,840 started with by dolores cannon um it's basically\h to she put her under get went through the steps\h\h 827 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:43,440 however she does it but the point was she found\h out what the root cause and why she was having the\h\h 828 01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:48,000 issues that she was having and that she learned\h what she needed to learn from them and then it was\h\h 829 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:53,600 basically just removed so from that session she\h i mean people have would have medical documents\h\h 830 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:59,680 that doctors would say this is it this is factual\h this is what's wrong with you and they'll go back\h\h 831 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:07,440 and they pretty much can wipe that whole document\h clean you know and so that's what make what makes\h\h 832 01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:12,880 no sense because i'm still trying to see what's\h the negative in that you know because at the\h\h 833 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:17,280 end of the day if you want to stay cynical you\h can always stay cynical well they're only doing\h\h 834 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:22,160 few good things for us just so that we can trust\h them and believe in but then they're going to get\h\h 835 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:26,720 us you know well then that that's the case with\h everybody then you'll be running around the person\h\h 836 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,880 is trusting everyone you ever meet and that's\h kind of a really shitty way to live in my opinion 837 01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:42,800 yeah i think i just think overall we have to\h uh ascend uh spiritually and when you get on a\h\h 838 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:49,440 level and stay in that level we are tapped into\h that you know vibration that mentality that um\h\h 839 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:56,320 you know that intent that goal you know with the\h with the source of oneness of all creation and\h\h 840 01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:03,840 then you know you're able to have experiences that\h are of of light and love so it's really important\h\h 841 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,400 really important to pursue that in your life\h\h 842 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,520 right excuse me for a second so um in the\h comments live a just said who is he talking\h\h 843 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:19,920 to well you can see the name uh i'm talking to\h niels and it's basically open lines today so if\h\h 844 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:26,560 you would like to simply contact me and share your\h story you know just use telegram join the ufo hub\h\h 845 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:31,120 group and you'll see the voice chat going on there\h right now and you'll be able to connect with me so\h\h 846 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:37,440 i'm just basically speaking to to niels but\h i assume you're just the average joe who does\h\h 847 01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:42,800 research and has has his own experiences and\h just simply dialed into to share your story 848 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:51,280 that's it i just want to clarify because sometimes\h you know people pop in and out all the time\h\h 849 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:58,480 you know at different times and so yeah it was\h um it sometimes i don't know so some of the chats\h\h 850 01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:04,560 crack me up too because because when i was doing\h an interview with melinda greer everybody in the\h\h 851 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:10,400 beginning was like she is she related um to steven\h greer you know and all that everybody wanted to\h\h 852 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:15,600 know so we clarify that and then of course like an\h hour into it you know new people come in it's like\h\h 853 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:21,040 is she related to to syrian grier it's like oh\h my god you know it's like you know it almost has\h\h 854 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:25,920 to be like a broken record and keep repeating it\h for everyone coming in well because even in live\h\h 855 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:32,320 chat you can go back even though it's moving\h on live you can click on it and i um if i'm\h\h 856 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:39,440 not mistaken i am i think i am dvr'ing it let\h me see here to where basically you can go back\h\h 857 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:46,640 four hours back to uh to see what was pre-recorded\h so you can either continue watching live or you\h\h 858 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:50,560 can go back from the very beginning of it and\h so even though while this is going on live you\h\h 859 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:57,840 can restart it from the beginning let me see i'm\h trying to figure out what i'm doing yeah it's dvr 860 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:09,040 do you know dr j radio live or uh third phase\h moon the cousin brothers uh third phase moon\h\h 861 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:14,240 sounds familiar but no i don't i don't think\h is it like a podcast or also or another show\h\h 862 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:21,840 dr jay uh does a podcast i think he was\h actually on ancient aliens anyways uh he uh\h\h 863 01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:27,440 yeah he'd be great to be on your show to call\h in you know meet the two of you connected dr\h\h 864 01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:33,760 jay uh rio live john elias um you also talk\h to him and also possibly get involved in third\h\h 865 01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:38,640 phase of moon and really you know just uh being\h out there in the community like there's a you\h\h 866 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:44,080 know a group of a lot of people involved in this\h organization that they're just honestly searching\h\h 867 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:50,000 for the truth and sharing it all and going out\h of the way to uh you know spread the message of\h\h 868 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:55,760 reality so well if you're if you're in touch with\h any of them you know i mean you of course you\h\h 869 01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:02,560 know you know how to direct them towards you know\h towards me so either to contact or have them call\h\h 870 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:07,680 in or during open lines or something yeah yeah\h i'll arrange that for sure all right i'm going to\h\h 871 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,400 i'm going to go but i do i appreciate everything\h you do and uh it's always great to talk to it's a\h\h 872 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:18,000 great pleasure and i hope you have a rest evening\h and encourage everybody somebody just get telegram\h\h 873 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:24,000 um it's really easy to use and basically ask your\h questions and share information your experiences\h\h 874 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:28,640 because it's more of the merrier have a good\h night everybody thanks neil so you take care 875 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:39,280 all right let's see here uh jim jams i'm\h gonna on unmute you and if you have mute\h\h 876 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:45,840 yourself you should be able to talk to me if\h you're still on and we'll see here in a second 877 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,680 jim you are unmuted if you're listening\h\h 878 01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,680 just unmute yourself and we can\h get the conversation started 879 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:08,160 okay i guess i'll i'll wait till maybe\h he's away from from the phone right now\h\h 880 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:14,480 but anyway so let me just uh youtube\h chat seeing what all y'all are discussing 881 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:22,720 who else we have cynthia diane carrey welcome 882 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:34,720 cynthia says people who have more actual\h experience with the ets uh resonate with allies\h\h 883 01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:41,680 of humanity right you know i can i see what what\h they're what they're talking about it's just that 884 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:50,400 um with the idea that there's a nefarious\h\h 885 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:57,760 racist doing their own thing and interacting with\h different government agencies has also been known\h\h 886 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:04,240 um while all the other channeled information\h was coming through through these other races\h\h 887 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:10,720 to they'll they'll point out to these different\h you know different races doing their thing but if\h\h 888 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:16,240 i'm not mistaken just like allies of humanity\h they don't also they don't look at them as\h\h 889 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:23,440 you know they just see them as also beings\h living their lives uh trying to engage um\h\h 890 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:29,520 whatever whatever agenda there is trying\h to fulfill it you know and so that it's not\h\h 891 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:36,720 necessarily a um absolutely vile even plot line\h it's just something what they think they need to\h\h 892 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:43,440 be doing they doing it's um my to use the silly\h analogy analogy i don't know if it will do it\h\h 893 01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:49,040 justice but i think it's almost like we as parents\h when we raise our children we do the best that we\h\h 894 01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:59,120 can do to raise them but we don't know if that's\h you know um implying our will over them too much\h\h 895 01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:05,280 to where now that won't necessarily allow them\h to grow up in the way they they might have grown\h\h 896 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:10,400 up if we weren't in their lives now i'm not saying\h those other alien races are like parents to us but\h\h 897 01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:18,320 they're just doing doing things like you know\h um some some of the fearful things it's like uh\h\h 898 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:22,480 especially if we talk about certain lizard\h races that they initially wanted to use us\h\h 899 01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:27,840 as food like we use with cattle you\h know but even then it's no different\h\h 900 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:34,320 than looking at us in the same way that we are\h looking at cattle of the only major difference\h\h 901 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:41,280 there is you know the sentient life that we\h are sent in compared to an animal and so um\h\h 902 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:48,400 yeah so you know for example we eat meat we\h we have slaughterhouses i think i mentioned\h\h 903 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:54,080 that during the interview and you know chicken\h houses pig farms whatever and we slaughter them\h\h 904 01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:58,480 for food but it doesn't you know just because\h i end up eating that steak doesn't mean that\h\h 905 01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:04,880 i'm inherently an evil person you know and so\h of course from our point of view because we\h\h 906 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:10,080 then would be food to them it's a very fearful\h thing and that would be too i'm not blaming you\h\h 907 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:15,520 i'm just trying to have more of a rational\h thought regarding this the scenario about um\h\h 908 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:24,480 about these you know this relationship then that\h could potentially go on but i've several times\h\h 909 01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:31,040 i've that i've you know gotten information about\h that is that that that's not going to happen\h\h 910 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:38,080 you know that you know that um um\h i guess other races have kind of\h\h 911 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:45,600 stepped in if that makes sense and so um\h this is actually a perfect opportunity to\h\h 912 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:52,400 to ask brad johnson about so earlier today before\h i started the show i'm going to have on the 20th\h\h 913 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:58,080 i'm going to have brad johnson back on and he's\h going to be channeling adronis so i want to ask\h\h 914 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:03,040 him about that specific information and ask\h him about all these things that i think you\h\h 915 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:07,680 guys might find interesting and of course\h it'll be open for um you guys to call in\h\h 916 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:14,320 and ask him or write in the chat um uh and\h you'll ask a question but yeah he's going to\h\h 917 01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:21,680 um i guess um end his channeling journey and so\h he will after august 31st brad johnson will not be\h\h 918 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:30,000 channeling adronis anymore so i'll basically have\h him on to just ask him about that you know who are\h\h 919 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:37,440 these lizard beings um you know did nasa go to the\h moon why is there still this this you know this uh\h\h 920 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:44,080 discord on what happened they we went to we\h didn't go to the moon and all this other things so\h\h 921 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:48,080 all the juicy conspiratorial things i would\h like to ask him about and of course whatever\h\h 922 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:53,360 other questions you might have but i would pretty\h much be getting into the to the meat of things\h\h 923 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:58,560 from the get-go because in the first interview\h that we did i asked brad to talk about himself\h\h 924 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:04,640 about why he got into channeling how he got into\h channeling and so i got that pretty much covered\h\h 925 01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:09,760 in that first section so this one would just be\h to ask adronis everything and anything possible\h\h 926 01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:16,400 regarding all the all the things that we we\h find interesting and see what his uh point\h\h 927 01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:24,400 of view or perspective is as as this um i guess\h higher dimensional uh being that he is so anyway\h\h 928 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:31,600 and then of course this friday at seven yeah\h so brad johnson will be august 20th this coming\h\h 929 01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:37,680 up friday which should be the sixth of august uh\h sherry wilde is finally coming back she's feeling\h\h 930 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:44,880 well enough to um you know to do interviews again\h so she's going to be on skype and of course we'll\h\h 931 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:50,400 be discussing a variety of things and like i\h mentioned before you guys can ask a question\h\h 932 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:58,320 of her directly through telegram and by joining\h the ufo group or if you're in chat to simply take\h\h 933 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,360 if you want to ask a question put\h the three three stars excuse me\h\h 934 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:08,000 three stars uh before your question so that\h way i know it's directed towards the guest\h\h 935 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:14,960 and it's a lot easier for me to identify on\h the list as i'm looking through okay so um 936 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:24,080 let's see well i don't necessarily have anything\h else i would like to cover we talked to ginger\h\h 937 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:31,120 talked to niels a bit and jim had raised his hand\h and i called him in but then he didn't answer\h\h 938 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:37,680 so unless he hears this and or anyone else\h out there that would like to join the group\h\h 939 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:44,240 and chat with me i think i'm just going\h to end it here a little bit about an hour\h\h 940 01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:49,840 and 40 minutes into it and i think we\h had some pretty good conversations so\h\h 941 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:58,560 let me see if i'm going to miss out on on\h anyone here if not uh okay fab want to speak 942 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:07,360 okay fab 22 you are unmuted and mute\h yourself and then you can chat with me 943 01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:17,840 okay i'm i'm on youtube now can you hear me yes\h i can hear you now almost excellence hi everyone\h\h 944 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:27,680 um it's actually regarding the uh uh the little\h footage that you put to start with with uh that\h\h 945 01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:35,680 ua fool that was what was picked picture\h wait i'm sorry the the ufo there was what 946 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,720 it was actually there was a footage\h but you put the beginning of this pro\h\h 947 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:48,400 right right about the shape-shifting ufo\h that's right shift shifting so since you have 948 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:58,800 i don't know hold on hold on i'm sorry hold on a\h second you're breaking up um like you're dropping\h\h 949 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,720 entirely and going silent i don't know why\h that's happening you sound clear there for\h\h 950 01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:07,200 a while but then you drop out can you is it\h something that you can do on your end or i\h\h 951 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:14,160 don't know why this is exactly happening\h can you hear me better yes please go on\h\h 952 01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:20,640 let's let's see let's see if you'll keep going\h let's see if i can if i can mute something here 953 01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:29,840 uh yes uh with uh with this type of\h footage i'll switch to it on the browser 954 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:39,120 go ahead i'm i'm playing it right now as\h you're speaking here are we okay now yes\h\h 955 01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:48,000 i can hear you now all right with uh with this\h type of footage but what you get the distortion\h\h 956 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:54,880 can come from quite easily when you change\h the focus of your camera when you actually\h\h 957 01:42:54,880 --> 01:43:02,000 uh picturing or taking a video through a window\h so when you actually change your focus on your\h\h 958 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:09,840 camera you've got that distortion that actually\h happens right right as one of the possible\h\h 959 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:16,640 way it could be that's actually something that\h you get when you've got a telescope and you're\h\h 960 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:23,200 actually looking at stats when you change your\h focus a little bit too too much and when you\h\h 961 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:28,800 have two mirrors then the the the shape of what\h you're seeing will actually distort quite a lot\h\h 962 01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:34,160 all right so the first first time i had\h a look at that about a week ago you know\h\h 963 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:40,000 i just went okay that's probably what\h it is uh but yet of course you know it\h\h 964 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:44,080 could be then you're a new way for one\h we're not too sure about that and uh\h\h 965 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:52,000 also it's kind of looks like you know it could be\h a weather balloon that's actually gone gone loose\h\h 966 01:43:53,520 --> 01:44:00,480 all right it does what i'm what i'm wondering\h is this seems to be like a feathering of\h\h 967 01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:06,800 of a light source and then it feathers out so i\h know what you mean with the i've had that often\h\h 968 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:11,600 you know doing camera work myself i know what\h you mean with the different distortions but\h\h 969 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:17,520 i honestly this i don't know how high up\h this is because this is you know i mean\h\h 970 01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:21,680 talking about weather balloons sure they\h can be really really up there but this is\h\h 971 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:29,680 really like in a different way because weather\h balloon you know you still have like a an edge\h\h 972 01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:35,280 to it and even though you might be being pressed\h you know the atmospheric pressure around it and\h\h 973 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:41,520 the winds and whatever else is up there that could\h change it but it eventually changes into like a\h\h 974 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:49,920 full-on um vertical shape you know from horizontal\h so anyway i mean it's intriguing to say the least\h\h 975 01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:54,400 i'm just you know i don't know to be honest what\h i'm getting with it it's just i'm not i'm not\h\h 976 01:44:54,400 --> 01:45:01,120 ready to write it off as as a balloon balloon\h question either i i'm not writing it off you\h\h 977 01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:07,200 know i was sort of kind of just commenting on it a\h little bit you know with uh with the impression of\h\h 978 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:12,960 course we we need to know uh the speed of the\h airplane as well so there's a lot of data we\h\h 979 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:19,920 just don't know about uh also the the speed of\h the wind you know how come like whatever it is\h\h 980 01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:27,520 is more smashing the speed of the airplane on that\h in itself is a big big question right and and also\h\h 981 01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:34,640 the the type of camera that was used so it's a bit\h of a shame but we we've got footage but we have\h\h 982 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:42,160 we don't have enough information to sort of uh go\h along with and uh it seems to be happening quite\h\h 983 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:47,600 a lot if this type of of witnessing that\h we're getting you know there's not enough\h\h 984 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:53,680 information right to to actually just just go\h oh yeah okay maybe we've got a smoking gun here\h\h 985 01:45:54,560 --> 01:46:00,320 right so it's one of the purpose and i wanted to\h communicate about that you know if people do have\h\h 986 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:07,760 this sort of happening you know it's to actually\h write down and get as much information as possible\h\h 987 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:14,400 as to validate you know what we are saying here\h right but it could be it could also also be the\h\h 988 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:20,320 clocking device no but that's for sure there\h are situations when a group of people you know\h\h 989 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:26,640 we look in the sky obviously there's a ufo and\h we've got half of the people that are looking\h\h 990 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:32,080 at it are not seeing anything when the other are\h saying well listen it's there now can't you see it\h\h 991 01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:39,840 so you know it could be that also right but\h there's always this idea about um the ufo\h\h 992 01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:46,400 uh some people always just think like oh ufo means\h immediate aliens like no it's unidentified flying\h\h 993 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:52,000 object you know that's the original definition\h of it now we of course kind of attribute aliens\h\h 994 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:59,280 to that but you know i guess i guess it's uh it's\h a term that that um i guess i don't know it all\h\h 995 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:05,120 depends on how i use it and you have to clarify\h that beforehand but just real quick um so crypto\h\h 996 01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:10,480 media was just saying something about how to\h send a message on telegram well you won't be\h\h 997 01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:18,960 sending me a message you can talk to me directly\h if you just unmute yourself uh crypto and then we\h\h 998 01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:23,200 can talk and yes the difference between what\h you're hearing on telegram and what's coming\h\h 999 01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:28,640 through the stream is that there's a link at\h least a 10 second delay if not more or less like\h\h 1000 01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:33,440 you know it's just the way streaming works there's\h no way it would ever be ever synced up so you\h\h 1001 01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:38,480 might want to if you whatever you're watching you\h might want to watch it in silent on your on your\h\h 1002 01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:46,400 computer while you're listening on telegram or\h just listen to telegram altogether um let me see\h\h 1003 01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:53,840 here let me just get off of this here so crypto\h i hope that uh that answers your question um\h\h 1004 01:47:54,480 --> 01:48:00,560 because you and if you want to write me a message\h you can obviously as i read in the youtube\h\h 1005 01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:06,320 comments you can write to there unless it's\h something more unless it's something more private 1006 01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:14,080 but yeah um yeah it's it's you know\h i mentioned it earlier but it means\h\h 1007 01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:20,400 it's i don't know it's i don't know what people\h want like do they i guess they just want clear\h\h 1008 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:29,360 full hd video of a ship landing with distinct\h features and beings walking out and then\h\h 1009 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:35,200 approaching the camera and saying hello i guess\h even that i bet you people are gonna go like god\h\h 1010 01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:40,960 that's cgi you know and so you know uh i don't\h i don't know i don't know what it will take\h\h 1011 01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:46,000 um when it comes to this physical proof now\h of course if you've had an experience on\h\h 1012 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:50,720 your own it's like you're done with you know\h needing the physical proof it's already like\h\h 1013 01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:55,680 mind-blowing to begin with but i can understand\h everyone else that's in that boat it's like\h\h 1014 01:48:55,680 --> 01:49:00,880 show us some pictures show us some video you\h know where's your proof so you know and then also\h\h 1015 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:07,040 i talked to the the gal that she was also this\h documentary it's coming out august uh august 8.\h\h 1016 01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:14,400 i talked to her a little bit over the weekend and\h she called um to just clarify something about the\h\h 1017 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:19,040 license agreement for the footage and whatnot\h but uh we got to talk in a little bit and i said\h\h 1018 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,760 i'm glad you're doing what you're doing\h because we need more documentaries like\h\h 1019 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:32,160 that especially now because we're already about\h technically 70 plus years behind you know really\h\h 1020 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:38,960 truly honestly covering ufos so the more serious\h documentaries about ufos are out there the better\h\h 1021 01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:43,840 you know but i was saying eventually sooner\h or later you know if you seriously want to get\h\h 1022 01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:48,240 into what's really going on you're going to\h have to start talking to about experiencers\h\h 1023 01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:53,280 and she said that experiences what's that i don't\h i never heard that term before so we got to talk\h\h 1024 01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:58,960 in a little bit so you know i don't know you know\h especially them in the film industry i'm not a\h\h 1025 01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:03,680 fan of hollywood but i don't know they're like an\h independent media group i guess that they design\h\h 1026 01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:08,960 or make documentaries and then sell to different\h networks i guess that's their that's what they do\h\h 1027 01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:16,960 if i'm not mistaken i could be wrong but anyway um\h you know if they are in the position to basically\h\h 1028 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:25,840 do um more credible documentaries about what\h abductions and experiences are about you know\h\h 1029 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:30,960 i hope that they start approaching that more in\h a serious way instead of doing it what kind of\h\h 1030 01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:36,640 history channel did to where you know having\h this you know they're you know they come late\h\h 1031 01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:41,440 at night they abduct us you know there's nothing\h you can do about it you know it's it's all these\h\h 1032 01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:46,720 this fear-mongering that happens and and for\h history channel truly is a show you know it's i\h\h 1033 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:52,400 mean glad it's in some ways spreading the message\h but at the same time it attracts too many people\h\h 1034 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:58,880 that are you know um like don't get me wrong if\h you doing a job anything you're doing i'm not\h\h 1035 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:05,120 a post for you getting paid whatsoever you know\h but what sucks is that you know you have you know\h\h 1036 01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:11,680 for example if you take eric when donekin's book\h chairs of the gods and that idea they just take it\h\h 1037 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:17,040 and then through through history channel\h kind of bastardized the whole idea to where\h\h 1038 01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:22,880 everything and anything is absolutely contributed\h to aliens you know it could be aliens and you have\h\h 1039 01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:28,080 all these other people that are that i personally\h don't consider very credible in the field and you\h\h 1040 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:34,080 know flocked to that kind of show and so it's\h unfortunate that you have real researchers\h\h 1041 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:38,640 you know mixing with uh with you know people\h that just what that want that attention\h\h 1042 01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:43,680 so i guess that's the negative part you know\h regarding that but you know i'm not you know\h\h 1043 01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:47,200 if you're a researcher and you spend all this\h time doing the research it's like why in the\h\h 1044 01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:53,760 world would you not want to get compensated for\h something if it takes you flights to this egypt to\h\h 1045 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:58,880 research you know pyramids and you have to go here\h and there you know everyone for some reason as i\h\h 1046 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:05,040 mentioned earlier they expect you to just you know\h be like jesus and walk over water for free and and\h\h 1047 01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:10,640 you know have just a you know places given to you\h to stay somewhere you know for free you know all\h\h 1048 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:16,800 of that costs money if you're wanting to do some\h research so you know why not encourage people like\h\h 1049 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:22,160 that because we we buy and swallow the [ __ ] from\h mainstream media all the time and we don't ever\h\h 1050 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:28,720 question them for getting paid to lie to us every\h day you know and so you know why wouldn't you be\h\h 1051 01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:34,400 you know why are you so critical in one way\h but then totally give you know a pass to\h\h 1052 01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:41,600 the established media whether it be shows or news\h so anyway i'm sorry fab i didn't mean to go off on\h\h 1053 01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:48,800 the tangent but um yeah i hope more you know more\h uh footage you know will come out i hope uh you\h\h 1054 01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:54,080 know regarding you know people not being so you\h know i don't think that they were like average\h\h 1055 01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:59,200 person i don't think they were ever afraid\h from posting things out there you know but um\h\h 1056 01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:05,920 they were um you know at least uh like this\h footage i've seen at least two three different\h\h 1057 01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:11,600 like uh short segments because i don't watch the\h mainstream news but i see certain segments that\h\h 1058 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:18,720 come across my way and they're looking at it but\h they're mainly looking at it from this bewildered\h\h 1059 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:27,920 very childish point of view like wow wow look at\h the [ __ ] wow unbelievable wow you know it's like\h\h 1060 01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:34,720 what the hell are you doing you know like calm\h your ass down you know it would be nice if you\h\h 1061 01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:40,400 you know analyze the frames you know analyze the\h footage or something but instead they spent more\h\h 1062 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:48,080 money you know on the makeup and and you\h know doing some banter amongst each other\h\h 1063 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:53,280 you know instead of actually doing the job\h of analyzing that that footage as a media\h\h 1064 01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:57,840 that i i think a media or news athlete\h should but anyway that's just my opinion 1065 01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:06,240 fab are you still there yes i'm still here i'm\h still here i'm just listening to you you're\h\h 1066 01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:11,600 making some very good points as usual and you're\h not going intelligent it's all very relatable\h\h 1067 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:16,960 uh what he was talking i\h was thinking also you know 1068 01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:23,760 some people mention why don't they come\h down you know and then land in front of me\h\h 1069 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:31,840 and they come out there is a little point\h to make here with the travis wharton story\h\h 1070 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:38,000 and wait so what are you saying there's a\h little what with the travis walton story\h\h 1071 01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:45,920 there is there is a good point that i actually\h made and and it was that uh after his uh his\h\h 1072 01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:53,920 first encounter when that she came back to uh\h to visit him you know let's say is that the\h\h 1073 01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:59,600 the deities or the beings actually came\h back to actually fix a medical problem\h\h 1074 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:06,640 that he had due to the interaction meaning\h that the uh the energy the energy field\h\h 1075 01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:14,160 of the technology was not actually\h compatible to the health of humans right\h\h 1076 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:21,600 so it could well be here one of the reasons that\h they don't actually show up in close proximity\h\h 1077 01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:28,240 due to the fact that their technology is not\h actually good for our health and rights that's\h\h 1078 01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:33,440 the point sorry i'm i'm just smiling a little\h bit there's nothing funny about the just the the\h\h 1079 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:39,840 popped into when you said their technology it's\h not compatible with humans i keep thinking about\h\h 1080 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:44,640 you know bullets are not compatible with\h us either you know just talking about\h\h 1081 01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:49,040 technology you know anyway just the the\h the clinical way you said it cracked me\h\h 1082 01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:54,400 up but there was i wasn't laughing at you so in\h case you're watching the video i don't want you\h\h 1083 01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:58,880 to take me the wrong way no you're\h not taking the wrong way i think we\h\h 1084 01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:03,840 we definitely need a sense of humor in all this\h you know if we lose our sense of humor it's uh\h\h 1085 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:10,960 i think we we we're going for a bad ride you know\h it's as simple as simple as that right and on a\h\h 1086 01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:18,080 personal note you know i do remember once being\h uh being fairly close to let's call it the flying\h\h 1087 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:23,440 saucer or whatever you know to to not feel very\h very good at all for at least two days after that\h\h 1088 01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:30,960 right and uh when when when i heard the the\h story of travis walton on i've listened to him 1089 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:38,320 when he actually mentioned that you know\h that you know there was some some physical\h\h 1090 01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:45,280 issues after the contact knowledge went aha make\h sense you know and you put one-on-one together\h\h 1091 01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:51,200 and i was just thinking you know\h what was probably why they just don't\h\h 1092 01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:57,760 come on physically you know let's put it this\h way quite simply because you know they kind of\h\h 1093 01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:03,040 care about us and they don't want us to be sick\h you know with radiation or whatever it is but do\h\h 1094 01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:07,920 trust me you know once once once you get sick you\h know you you don't feel well for at least two days\h\h 1095 01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:15,520 well it's not well at all right you get\h lit week you can't move you it's it's\h\h 1096 01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:22,320 it's not a very positive aspect of the\h experience but i think it's a byproduct\h\h 1097 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:27,520 right it's not that they are negative in\h themselves but see what happens with that\h\h 1098 01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:32,080 and perhaps you know we need to be\h prepped you know we need to have some\h\h 1099 01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:39,920 some sort of energy within ourselves as human you\h know to be sort of being part in line so we can\h\h 1100 01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:46,240 have better communication i just don't know i'm\h just you know just just saying that just questions\h\h 1101 01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:52,240 right right what do you think well\h because i mean i i agree because\h\h 1102 01:57:54,080 --> 01:58:02,880 the if if let's say that every single one of\h the races are here to just use us and just be\h\h 1103 01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:10,000 um you know taking advantage of us why for example\h like in travis walton case and you know why bother\h\h 1104 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:15,920 you just it's no different than if you know squash\h in a bug you're not gonna try to revive it again\h\h 1105 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:22,480 and fix fix whatever you damage if you don't care\h you're like okay it's destroyed damaged fine we'll\h\h 1106 01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:28,480 move on and go go about the galaxy you know so\h to say but why you know why stop which which\h\h 1107 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:36,880 is again this this this idea that i can't you\h know i can't buy into that all of them are just\h\h 1108 01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:46,160 here to use us and take advantage in some way in a\h nefarious way you know it's like you know this was\h\h 1109 01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:52,400 an event that happened in the woods far away from\h everybody uh just a handful of witnesses which you\h\h 1110 01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:57,360 know that don't matter at all considering that\h at that time especially nobody even believed in\h\h 1111 01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:04,000 you know aliens you know they might have heard of\h them you know and so why pick him up to help him\h\h 1112 01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:11,600 out and fix him and then bring him back you know\h yeah for sure it's a crazy story it's crazy story\h\h 1113 01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:17,440 i mean obviously there is something going on\h it's millions of people now but important sort\h\h 1114 01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:23,760 of things so it's quite hard to just brush it\h off and going oh yeah just to dream or whatever\h\h 1115 01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:30,080 maybe it could be as well obviously you know\h there are some civilization you know but they've\h\h 1116 01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:35,040 taken interest of you know of us you know\h this planet and you know whoever is on it\h\h 1117 01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:44,800 and it could be just also be perhaps like our\h own scientific professors and and people that\h\h 1118 01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:52,000 go in jungles you know into the jungles to\h study let's say or to study any type of animals\h\h 1119 01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:59,280 and after they realize that the interaction\h with those animals is sort of tempering with\h\h 1120 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:06,160 their own evolution then they just go wow okay\h we've done something here actually interferes\h\h 1121 02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:13,280 with their own natural processes so let's take\h a little bit of a step back and and see that we\h\h 1122 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:19,200 what we can do to actually undo what we've\h just done if it makes sense right it does 1123 02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:27,280 well you know it's uh it's really when it comes\h to the human body and the planet the more i've\h\h 1124 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:32,320 learned and the more things that have come and all\h the information has come through channeling it's\h\h 1125 02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:39,440 actually very interesting that it will not require\h that long to either your body or the planet to\h\h 1126 02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:45,440 just fix itself and get back into this pristine\h stage you know that's what's interesting about\h\h 1127 02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:52,320 that all that it requires is a will and intention\h to actually do it and it will be you know fixed\h\h 1128 02:00:52,320 --> 02:01:00,240 in very very short time you know yes yes yes yes\h you know so for example you know some of the very\h\h 1129 02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:06,560 interesting things that the planet does from the\h from the planetary perspective um they say on the\h\h 1130 02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:14,320 ozark mountain ufo conference youtube channel when\h i spoke in 2019 at the conference there's a panel\h\h 1131 02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:20,160 and it's the it's i think you can just search for\h it and go to the ozark channel search for it and\h\h 1132 02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:24,960 it's basically a panel of all the speakers that\h on sunday that we all just kind of got together\h\h 1133 02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:32,880 and just answering people's questions and whatnot\h and so i was sitting next to um oh man i suck with\h\h 1134 02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:40,880 names today uh you usually names are not my strong\h suit anyway but uh uh mark d'antoni i believe was\h\h 1135 02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:47,600 his name and um he's you know uh an astronomer\h i believe and really scientifically minded and\h\h 1136 02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:54,160 oriented so he's not into he's not into this kind\h of stuff that we all are you know to him it's it's\h\h 1137 02:01:54,160 --> 02:02:00,240 all about the the science and astronomy and how\h things work you know but he uh he basically was\h\h 1138 02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:05,760 discussing you know aliens from the scientific\h point of view at the conference but anyway at this\h\h 1139 02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:14,960 specific speaker panel he somebody was asking him\h about global warming right and he basically just\h\h 1140 02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:21,040 you know said you know i have access and i've\h been in access for core samples you know going\h\h 1141 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:26,640 back centuries and centuries you know and all\h these different things and he was talking about\h\h 1142 02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:34,560 you know how at one point the planet was even\h hotter than what it was now you know and um so\h\h 1143 02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:40,800 he was then discussing that that's what started\h this him talking but then he switched over into\h\h 1144 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:48,400 so we had this big bp right a british petroleum\h spill uh here in america if you remember that uh\h\h 1145 02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:55,120 fab and um it was uh they were saying it will\h destroy the environment and the ecosystem for\h\h 1146 02:02:55,120 --> 02:03:01,280 centuries to come the oil was you know all over\h the beaches and was really destroying a lot\h\h 1147 02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:06,800 well from this non-metaphysical-minded\h person this very straight-laced scientific\h\h 1148 02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:14,080 you know he said something weird that happened\h is some in that area this um you know he says uh\h\h 1149 02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:19,280 he's not believing that this was some kind\h of like you know gaia came together to now\h\h 1150 02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:25,440 makes these changes but he says this bacteria\h formed that were basically eaten up all the the\h\h 1151 02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:34,320 um or eating up all the the petroleum i guess or\h whatever was spilled to where then it was it was\h\h 1152 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:39,200 you know basically cleaned it up and it's gone\h and the second the food source was over then it\h\h 1153 02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:47,200 died out and so now it's you know fish are back uh\h corals is back you know the corals and everything\h\h 1154 02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:52,160 else you know he said that was quite amazing\h to see it's something that was not expected you\h\h 1155 02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:56,240 know here we are thinking this is something we're\h gonna have to deal with you know decades moving\h\h 1156 02:03:56,240 --> 02:04:01,280 forward now i'm not saying let's see what else the\h planet can do miraculously so let's [ __ ] it up\h\h 1157 02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:06,400 that's not what i'm saying at all you know like\h let's keep the planet as clean as we possibly can\h\h 1158 02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:12,880 but something that you know i never understood\h when it comes to pushing certain narratives right\h\h 1159 02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:20,000 were the cows farting 10 000 years ago and\h more whenever we were going to the ice age\h\h 1160 02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:26,240 you know where the humans you know because of\h their hut building and and development progress\h\h 1161 02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:30,640 that you know was heating up the planet\h more and more to where then the ice age\h\h 1162 02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:36,240 as the ice was melting and retracting further\h up north and you know revealing the different\h\h 1163 02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:43,200 uh continents you know europe and america and\h all of that you know you have to think back\h\h 1164 02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:50,400 and consider all of that who was there to cause\h this change to begin with and so we think that\h\h 1165 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:55,520 the way we see the world now is that the all\h be all that now climate will stop and that's\h\h 1166 02:04:55,520 --> 02:05:00,640 it this is the temperature that we all know about\h and that's something that a lot of the you know\h\h 1167 02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:06,880 et's you know uh messages that come through talk\h about it's like we're not even done yet you know\h\h 1168 02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:12,000 this ideal temperature on the planet is actually\h would be quite warmer than what it was before\h\h 1169 02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:19,280 and you know this certain element of people have\h now managed to find to play this blame game to\h\h 1170 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:24,960 say ah the planet is getting hotter it's because\h you're driving a gas car and not an electric car\h\h 1171 02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:30,560 you know and you know you're your fault for you\h know having conventional light bulbs instead of\h\h 1172 02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:36,960 you know leds or more you know um you know these\h friendly light bulbs the point here is that nobody\h\h 1173 02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:41,280 likes to [ __ ] where they eat you know let's\h clean the planet let's let's you know make it\h\h 1174 02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:46,960 comfortable for everybody but to play this blame\h game and only look at short period of history\h\h 1175 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:52,640 is very deceiving you know it's very deceiving\h and not only that when we're talking about climate\h\h 1176 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:57,600 um the more research i was doing just to you\h know find out what is this big deal about\h\h 1177 02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:04,480 you know there's if i'm not mistaken and i\h could be wrong like 20 different fields of\h\h 1178 02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:10,400 expertise that have to be considered i mean you're\h talking about ocean currents you're talking about\h\h 1179 02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:16,400 you know different the way condensation happens\h you know all these different fields that have\h\h 1180 02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:21,520 to come together that make up the climate it's\h not just one thing that has to be looked at and\h\h 1181 02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:28,080 if it's tweaked or changed that that will you\h know give you the desired outcome you know so\h\h 1182 02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:32,480 you know there's not a consensus as they would\h like you to believe and there's been a lot of\h\h 1183 02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:37,920 very smart people out there that really spell it\h out in those terms for everyone else out there\h\h 1184 02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:45,120 you know and so i think whatever side you're on\h i think we all can come together and agree that\h\h 1185 02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:50,880 yes we should you know dress me nuts when i see\h people throw trash on the dirt road that we live\h\h 1186 02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:56,800 on here you know and do all the stuff it's like we\h live in this beautiful wooden area and it's very\h\h 1187 02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:02,880 lush and then you see a mcdonald's bag you know\h and and or some kind of you know styrofoam cup\h\h 1188 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:11,360 thrown out or whatever it's like why don't you you\h know um expose of it properly you know and and and\h\h 1189 02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:17,440 you know so i'm sure we can come together on under\h those consensus without needing to you know play\h\h 1190 02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:24,560 this blame game and now make it political and\h and try to pass um let's say you know political\h\h 1191 02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:31,200 things like you know legislature and blaming the\h one side doing this the other side doing that\h\h 1192 02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:37,360 and so i think more can come about if we just\h simply looked at the facts of what they are\h\h 1193 02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:44,880 you know instead of you know just taking certain\h data out of context because a lot of people like\h\h 1194 02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:50,800 something i had to learn many years ago is that\h you can live with data and facts you know there's\h\h 1195 02:07:50,800 --> 02:08:00,400 an art to that you can use facts and be you know\h um uh factually correct but you're telling the\h\h 1196 02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:06,400 a false story you know and that's something\h that you that's people gonna have to start\h\h 1197 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:11,680 learning about and getting familiar familiarized\h with there's even books about that stuff too\h\h 1198 02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:15,600 to where you can look at facts and you're\h just like oh wow well i guess that's it but\h\h 1199 02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:24,000 you know it's it's majority of the time\h taken out of context so i'm sorry i'm going\h\h 1200 02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,720 no you i i just love listening\h to you anyway i think\h\h 1201 02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:36,480 just for the point of view of my my very strong\h french accent you know it's probably uh best for\h\h 1202 02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:42,320 the year you know that you talk but you you you\h are so right you know it's all about education we\h\h 1203 02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:49,760 need to educate ourselves about the consequences\h of our act and also you know it is obvious but\h\h 1204 02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:55,920 when we do some deeper research uh that's what the\h uh the planet you know is going through changes\h\h 1205 02:08:55,920 --> 02:09:02,400 and it's it's a cycle it's been going on for many\h thousands hundreds of exactly millions of years\h\h 1206 02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:10,480 when when there are cycles obviously it's a cycle\h that we can be a bit more involved with so that\h\h 1207 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:18,560 cycle is less detrimental to a way of\h living right and also there are some people\h\h 1208 02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:26,240 that will use the situation to push an agenda\h maybe positive negative but they will use that to\h\h 1209 02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:32,320 simply push their ideas right so can i can i tell\h you something yeah can i tell you something real\h\h 1210 02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:39,040 quick so this is perfect example so for those who\h might not know um michael moore is this you know\h\h 1211 02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:45,280 documentarian that he makes a lot of documentaries\h i don't agree with but one was very interesting he\h\h 1212 02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:50,160 recently came out with a documentary called\h the planet of the humans from our mistakes 1213 02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:58,240 right and it's very interesting because he's\h a very you know very much like lefty you know\h\h 1214 02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:03,680 uh bleeding heart liberal you know let's save\h the planet because the humans are destroying\h\h 1215 02:10:03,680 --> 02:10:10,560 everything and it turns out that you know this\h very movement of solar panels and let's go to\h\h 1216 02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:17,680 alternative energy is pretty much backed by uh\h you know uh by these uh petrol companies you know\h\h 1217 02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:23,040 and there's all this illusion that you know like\h let's say to design these different or make these\h\h 1218 02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:28,880 different panels you know creates a much larger\h you know uh carbon footprint uh talking about\h\h 1219 02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:36,720 electric cars much larger carbon footprint now of\h course you know the the i'd love electric cars i'd\h\h 1220 02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:40,560 love to own one one day if i can you know\h i don't know that i can afford it you know\h\h 1221 02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:47,680 how many more years down the road but\h i would you know once a level of enough\h\h 1222 02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:54,800 i guess production has been made it's a lot nicer\h to not have to constantly inhale each other's\h\h 1223 02:10:54,800 --> 02:11:00,960 exhaust so to say you know so even though it took\h um you know a larger carbon footprint to make that\h\h 1224 02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:07,840 electric car in the long run it made it nicer so\h that you can actually you know have these smog\h\h 1225 02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:15,520 free cities like la was horrible when i was in la\h it was just you know i was really talking about um\h\h 1226 02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:23,280 you know um the the spell of hollywood just\h falling before my eyes you know just the way\h\h 1227 02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:29,680 that was portrayed how la was when i saw it for\h myself i was beyond disappointed because they\h\h 1228 02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:38,800 would have these small very very small sections of\h of um um like where you would be like the studios\h\h 1229 02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:45,760 and you know uh it looks real nice and literally\h right next to it have like these just you know 1230 02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:54,160 these projects that i can't describe like they\h were so bad that even the worst ghetto in san\h\h 1231 02:11:54,160 --> 02:12:01,280 luis would look like a you know a uh uh like a\h rich hotel compared to how people were living\h\h 1232 02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:06,880 there and that was l.a you know and then i was\h my friend was in l.a before me so he and i were\h\h 1233 02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:13,520 driving we're driving together and i kept you know\h trying to you know clean my eyes i was like dude\h\h 1234 02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:17,360 are you eyes burning too like what the hell is\h going on he's just looking at he's smiling he's\h\h 1235 02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:23,600 like yeah that's the smog from all the exhaust\h and when we were eventually from this um closer\h\h 1236 02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:30,480 to the hollywood sign you can just see it's this\h never-ending cloud that's that's over you know\h\h 1237 02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:36,240 um over the entire city and so you're living in\h it you're inhaling it and all these other things\h\h 1238 02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:41,440 so i'm not an environmentalist i'm definitely\h not agreeing with the left agenda regarding that\h\h 1239 02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:47,680 but i do agree that there's steps we can take to\h improve our environment without you know blaming\h\h 1240 02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:52,960 each other i'm not going to say and sit there like\h you know you petro you know companies designing\h\h 1241 02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:58,880 all these cars you know it's like they did because\h it was a necessity because of what we thought we\h\h 1242 02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:03,920 needed we the ones that bought into it we bought\h those cars they didn't hold a gun to our heads to\h\h 1243 02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:09,040 buy them you know we just you know for one reason\h or another we were convinced that we wanted it\h\h 1244 02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:14,320 because it made us feel better or we liked it\h the color whatever else you know that they maybe\h\h 1245 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:20,800 played played upon our emotions to get us to buy\h those but it's also us that can make that change\h\h 1246 02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:26,720 by now redirecting of how we spend money because\h if they don't see sales anymore if they don't\h\h 1247 02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:34,640 see um how you know if they don't see how um you\h know the people are buying those things anymore\h\h 1248 02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:40,240 it forces them to change you know i've seen a lot\h of stores around here there's there's not a store\h\h 1249 02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:45,360 around where i live here or in missouri or in\h arkansas that does not have a organic section\h\h 1250 02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:51,520 of produce before you would never very hardly\h ever see that but because of demand and people\h\h 1251 02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:58,160 want it it's growing larger and larger and larger\h why because you spoke with your money but doesn't\h\h 1252 02:13:58,160 --> 02:14:04,000 matter what country you're in you speak with your\h money you say i want to buy into this but not\h\h 1253 02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:11,120 that and so of course you know um anyway\h so the uh the idea is that you know we\h\h 1254 02:14:11,120 --> 02:14:16,000 don't always have to play this blame game just\h live the life the way you want to live it spend\h\h 1255 02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:20,080 the money where you want to spend it where you\h think it's right and then see what comes about\h\h 1256 02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:29,200 yeah absolutely and also take responsibility\h by own time what we do with our own time and\h\h 1257 02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:34,960 and see we can i'm lucky enough you know i live\h in the country i'm very secure that's why you\h\h 1258 02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:41,040 know i've got my own garden basically i grow my\h own vegetables right and i've rediscovered the\h\h 1259 02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:47,280 taste of vegetable fresh vegetables that comes\h from your garden it actually tastes good right\h\h 1260 02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:53,440 and then after that you know you go and buy a\h mcdo or kentucky or whatever and you can smell it\h\h 1261 02:14:53,440 --> 02:15:00,640 and then you go oh it just doesn't smell good at\h all and and and then you start to rediscover the\h\h 1262 02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:06,960 the taste of fresh produce even the kids you know\h they they are asking for more vegetables you know\h\h 1263 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:12,640 it's it's unbelievable you know it's unbelievable\h and you were talking about l.a as well you know\h\h 1264 02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:18,640 as you know and i've traveled quite\h a lot and and and i know when we're\h\h 1265 02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:25,040 going to land to l.a because you can see the\h pollution 20 minutes before you land right\h\h 1266 02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:30,080 before you actually land you know when\h you're coming from overseas you know you're\h\h 1267 02:15:30,080 --> 02:15:35,840 taking a big trip etc right you know you're\h about 20 minutes from running from l.a because\h\h 1268 02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:41,280 you can see the pollution cloud 20 minutes away\h it's quite wicked you know it's quite wicked\h\h 1269 02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:47,440 no right and we're talking about yes we're\h talking about pollution as well you know with\h\h 1270 02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:52,960 uh it's getting a bit like i will close up here\h but you you were talking about the bp oil spill\h\h 1271 02:15:54,240 --> 02:16:01,360 right but uh like we had and interestingly\h enough some uh some some some people that are\h\h 1272 02:16:01,360 --> 02:16:10,960 some very top scientists or she's starting to\h decipher the crop circles all right and there\h\h 1273 02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:16,400 was actually crop circles that was done in\h england right that actually mentioned quite\h\h 1274 02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:24,400 straight fact you know the location\h and the dates of the spill itself right\h\h 1275 02:16:25,120 --> 02:16:31,600 and uh in the crop circle in the crop\h circle yeah they know what they know\h\h 1276 02:16:31,600 --> 02:16:36,720 how to decipher club circle now and actually if\h you want and i'll send you an email and send you\h\h 1277 02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:43,438 a few links you know but those scientists i really\h get it sure and um and uh what was quite funny is\h\h 1278 02:16:43,439 --> 02:16:50,559 you know some people say oh yeah you know it's\h just luck etc and just next to the crop circle\h\h 1279 02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:57,600 around that was about two three months after\h that in the crop circle they actually made a\h\h 1280 02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:04,480 crop circle obviously you know with with the\h sign with the insignia with the motto of dp in it 1281 02:17:07,359 --> 02:17:13,839 somebody you talked was it more of\h an authentic one or made by humans 1282 02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:27,199 oh yeah it's done by human obviously right and\h then after that the old company said oh yes we\h\h 1283 02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:32,960 did that we did that but some some research being\h done and it was proven that it was more or less\h\h 1284 02:17:32,960 --> 02:17:39,200 impossible to have been number units due to the\h configuration of the crop circle itself right so\h\h 1285 02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:46,240 it's vp but took the opportunity of using that\h crop circle right to right you just promote uh\h\h 1286 02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:54,080 their names but some some you know some real well\h verse scientist people went into that crop circle\h\h 1287 02:17:54,080 --> 02:18:01,680 right it was denied as being too simple it was\h uh deemed to be oh yeah okay well you know the uh\h\h 1288 02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:07,760 whoever makes the circles i will not do that\h when they did some some proper research they\h\h 1289 02:18:07,760 --> 02:18:12,400 realized that the way the crop soup was\h made was obviously not being done by humans\h\h 1290 02:18:13,120 --> 02:18:19,120 right right so they actually spin the story and\h uh so we're talking about pollution about planet\h\h 1291 02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:25,680 earth you know etc and uh no it shows that\h normally the the planet earth you know can\h\h 1292 02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:32,880 heal itself but sort of looks like as well but\h we do have help you know on how to sort of um\h\h 1293 02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:39,680 change our way of thinking on what we are doing\h by having some some some warnings basically on\h\h 1294 02:18:39,680 --> 02:18:46,241 saying listen you know there is going to be a\h problem here it's like fukushima also you know\h\h 1295 02:18:47,680 --> 02:18:54,880 i think it was 2011 that exploded with uh with\h that tsunami terrible tsunami uh once again you\h\h 1296 02:18:54,880 --> 02:19:02,080 know this was very clearly defined in the crop\h circle four months in advance and it was clearly\h\h 1297 02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:08,479 defined with date and also the location right so\h we do have a little bit of help here you know it\h\h 1298 02:19:08,479 --> 02:19:14,080 seems and all those things are not looking\h so so good as far as pollution is concerned\h\h 1299 02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:21,920 uh there is hope there is hope and obviously there\h are also some people are using but fear-mongering\h\h 1300 02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:28,240 also to push an agenda but it is clear that\h we need to clean up he said it right right a\h\h 1301 02:19:28,240 --> 02:19:35,760 piece of paper before yes go ahead well no i mean\h you know talking about okay so you know just to\h\h 1302 02:19:36,319 --> 02:19:43,519 looking at the agenda right so al gore came out\h in the early 2000s about the inconvenient truth\h\h 1303 02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:50,880 you know and based on that yeah he started the\h different companies that you know started um\h\h 1304 02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:55,680 coming out with these you know curly light bulbs\h they were supposed to be green and helped to plan\h\h 1305 02:19:55,680 --> 02:20:02,720 it out and it turned out to be one of the\h most toxic you know uh uh mercury laden uh\h\h 1306 02:20:02,720 --> 02:20:09,760 bulbs you can possibly buy you know it's like um\h um uh one of the labels if i remember correctly\h\h 1307 02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:15,840 or if i remember correctly it's got its\h finger in a pie you know it's got his feet 1308 02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:29,680 he has like five different houses and not one\h single one of them has some kind of alternative\h\h 1309 02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:36,318 energy source on it like windmill or or um\h you know or a solar panel any of that so you\h\h 1310 02:20:36,319 --> 02:20:40,479 know it's almost like you know rules for thee\h but not for me it's like so you know shouldn't\h\h 1311 02:20:40,479 --> 02:20:46,479 you live by example i mean you were pretty you\h know heartbroken and wanting to make sure that\h\h 1312 02:20:46,479 --> 02:20:52,240 you know you told every human that hey it's your\h fault for living that this planet is going down\h\h 1313 02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:57,840 you know but yet you know they're not worried\h about they're not they're not worried about\h\h 1314 02:20:57,840 --> 02:21:03,680 you know selling their property that's on the\h coastlines you know uh because you know you would\h\h 1315 02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:08,800 have thought that it's a bad investment if it's\h you know coastlines are going to be flooded so\h\h 1316 02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:13,680 why won't you want to sell now more inland\h but i don't see that happening anytime soon 1317 02:21:16,160 --> 02:21:21,280 yeah he's a very good comedian i mean mr argo\h it's not a very good thing as well you know\h\h 1318 02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:26,800 let's not you know bring the guy down obviously\h he has a job etc but for sure you know it's one\h\h 1319 02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:31,438 of those individuals you know that jumped\h on the on the wagon you know the so-called\h\h 1320 02:21:31,439 --> 02:21:37,839 green movement and when you really look behind\h you know how how it's being done it's actually\h\h 1321 02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:44,880 polluting the planet you even more when when we\h think you know they've discovered this this new\h\h 1322 02:21:46,399 --> 02:21:52,160 source of energy you can put into cars\h and also new petrols floor but to do that\h\h 1323 02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:58,000 we need to cut down millions of millions\h of trees and reduce them into wood chips\h\h 1324 02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:04,080 you know so that we can power this new engine\h i mean you know let's get real here right\h\h 1325 02:22:05,439 --> 02:22:12,399 right well fab um forgive me i want to give ken\h also a chance to to speak before i get off here so\h\h 1326 02:22:12,399 --> 02:22:17,839 thank you again for staying up so late in france\h and i appreciate you calling in and talking to me\h\h 1327 02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:26,080 you know i um you know i hope you continue doing\h that i'm trying my very best to have the free time\h\h 1328 02:22:26,080 --> 02:22:32,160 and the spare time to uh to do that luckily right\h now i'm off sick so uh i can dedicate that but\h\h 1329 02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:40,319 as you know you know i i will miss it for for\h anyone so thanks for once again keeping some work\h\h 1330 02:22:40,319 --> 02:22:46,160 out it's very much appreciated all right thank you\h fab we'll stay in touch and send me those emails\h\h 1331 02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:53,680 please yeah i'm gonna send you that link as well\h scientists know that uh firing the crop circles\h\h 1332 02:22:54,560 --> 02:23:06,000 yep all right thank you i do have a good night\h and take care bye-bye yes okay ken you are uh\h\h 1333 02:23:06,000 --> 02:23:17,840 give me a second you are unmuted in my end i\h mute yourself on yours and you can speak to me\h\h 1334 02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:24,560 uh ken can you hear me i have unmuted you if you\h can unmute yourself and then we can talk yeah\h\h 1335 02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:31,840 well um hi i'm ken pass i have a lot of\h information that uh well i've been uh\h\h 1336 02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:39,599 doing stuff for a lot longer than everybody\h actually actually uh realizes but um the\h\h 1337 02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:47,600 crop circles for instance they're much older than\h everybody realizes and um well they're very sacred\h\h 1338 02:23:48,319 --> 02:23:55,679 um there there was a crop circle in england not\h too long ago and a lot of people have found the\h\h 1339 02:23:55,680 --> 02:24:01,281 same image on a rock that's called the roswell\h stone you might have heard about the roswell rock\h\h 1340 02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:08,800 it has a design on it and in england i\h think it's england they have they found\h\h 1341 02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:15,600 a crop circle many years later or many years\h before i forgot which one it was but um\h\h 1342 02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:22,399 well when i was back in time all those thousands\h of years ago one of my elders handed me a stone\h\h 1343 02:24:22,399 --> 02:24:28,479 because i had a job to do i had to go get medicine\h for the little blond-haired girl hiker who was\h\h 1344 02:24:28,479 --> 02:24:37,679 also back in time with us and my elder looked\h native american brown skin page boy haircut\h\h 1345 02:24:38,479 --> 02:24:44,719 with a uniform on there were two of them they\h were tall they were a little bit taller than i was\h\h 1346 02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:51,519 and they weren't from earth and well they handed\h me that stone which you all call the roswell stone\h\h 1347 02:24:52,160 --> 02:24:57,439 i was transported back in time with the\h stone in my hand with one of the men's\h\h 1348 02:24:57,439 --> 02:25:03,679 staff members we came to a house i don't know\h how we got there but we were inside of a house\h\h 1349 02:25:04,319 --> 02:25:12,080 i was drinking water out of this kitchen sink\h like an elephant just guzzling water because where\h\h 1350 02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:19,760 we were from thousands of years ago back in time\h there was hardly any water water was scarce and\h\h 1351 02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:26,800 well the man staff member ran into the medicine\h cabinet in this person's house wherever we were\h\h 1352 02:25:27,439 --> 02:25:32,639 he got the medicine he said come on let's go\h put a cork in it we're out outside of the screen\h\h 1353 02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:39,358 door there was like a old-timey screen door we\h ran outside the house we were transported back\h\h 1354 02:25:39,359 --> 02:25:45,519 through time back in the past and i had a hole\h in my pocket and it fell out of my pocket and\h\h 1355 02:25:45,520 --> 02:25:55,680 many many thousands of years in the future a man\h walking through i guess was his story he found it\h\h 1356 02:25:55,680 --> 02:26:02,960 he picked it up and he called it the roswell brock\h now that image on the stone is the same image\h\h 1357 02:26:02,960 --> 02:26:11,120 that's in england there's there's a meaning for\h these crop circles and i have the answer for it\h\h 1358 02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:16,800 but it seems like nobody really cares nobody\h really nobody's really interested in the art\h\h 1359 02:26:17,680 --> 02:26:24,239 of the crop circles and they don't really want to\h pay attention on their true meaning which is very\h\h 1360 02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:35,920 sacred very so very sacred if you see a real real\h crop circle you can stink you can distinguish art\h\h 1361 02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:45,280 from a fake any time because they're exact they\h have meaning and you met a person while you talk\h\h 1362 02:26:45,280 --> 02:26:51,439 you're talking to a person who knows because the\h roswell's the roswell stone was placed in my hand\h\h 1363 02:26:51,439 --> 02:26:58,799 by a person not from this world and i trans we\h were transported into the future to get medicine\h\h 1364 02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:04,398 for the little blonde hair grow hiker who was\h sick back in time and we went back through time\h\h 1365 02:27:04,399 --> 02:27:11,120 and it fell out of my pocket because i had a hole\h in my pocket it's that easy the art is very sacred\h\h 1366 02:27:12,479 --> 02:27:19,439 it has meaning it has it's backwards and forwards\h migration if you look at the roswell stone\h\h 1367 02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:27,599 backwards and forwards migration in the same spot\h it's a time traveling stone and it will only work\h\h 1368 02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:33,359 for a certain individual on this planet\h except for the elders who gave it to me\h\h 1369 02:27:33,359 --> 02:27:38,319 because i have a very special arm because\h of the things that have happened to me\h\h 1370 02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:44,160 you can i remember you telling me the story\h before you know and i can only tell you what\h\h 1371 02:27:44,160 --> 02:27:49,680 what i was saying last time just you know keep\h on posting more about your story and you know\h\h 1372 02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:54,800 let it be out there it's like i know you you\h get a little bit you know about i don't know\h\h 1373 02:27:54,800 --> 02:27:58,960 resentful that people don't believe you\h it's like again all i can do is listen\h\h 1374 02:28:00,399 --> 02:28:05,759 it's hurtful sometimes because here i am posting\h the biggest proof the biggest truth telling the\h\h 1375 02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:12,080 biggest truth the biggest proof because i've\h been here for 20 million years physically and i\h\h 1376 02:28:12,080 --> 02:28:17,600 have all this incredible important proof and i'm\h getting thrown another bus by everybody and i'm\h\h 1377 02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:23,040 like looking at all these people who don't have\h proof of anything writing books in their so-called\h\h 1378 02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:28,880 public figures and i'm like um hi i've been\h here for 20 million years i have all the answers\h\h 1379 02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:35,840 oh yeah yeah whatever yeah sure okay go on go\h on and i'm like i see how people can right but\h\h 1380 02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:40,720 you have to understand you know i know a lot\h of us have different experiences that are just\h\h 1381 02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:44,640 weird you don't want to listen you don't\h want to listen you don't want to really learn\h\h 1382 02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:55,120 you just want to oh it's a stigma or it's a\h anomaly or it's you know and i'm like good grief\h\h 1383 02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:59,280 you know well ken i know but\h you're gonna have you're gonna be\h\h 1384 02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:06,800 surrounded and be facing people like that all the\h time the point is just put out your information\h\h 1385 02:29:06,800 --> 02:29:11,358 you know and just keep doing what you\h do it's like i need to get good public\h\h 1386 02:29:11,359 --> 02:29:17,839 relations that's the only thing that i'm lacking\h i'm posting it on facebook i'm posting on youtube\h\h 1387 02:29:17,840 --> 02:29:25,280 i'm posting on tick tock and and twitter i\h ain't getting no one response back it's just\h\h 1388 02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:30,719 like an empty crowd all i hear is crickets and\h i'm like hi look at this and everybody's like\h\h 1389 02:29:31,680 --> 02:29:38,318 wow okay it's they're not interested you would\h be surprised how very hard it is for a person\h\h 1390 02:29:38,319 --> 02:29:43,040 who's been here for 20 million years to get the\h information out because no one's helping them with\h\h 1391 02:29:43,040 --> 02:29:48,640 the good public relations that he needs so can you\h i can bring i can bring you're going to have to\h\h 1392 02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:53,520 let me speak because this we can't just have this\h go one way i'm gonna have to mute you i'm sorry\h\h 1393 02:29:54,160 --> 02:30:00,080 i i need what i'm what i'm trying to tell you is\h that you can't just blur out the i've been around\h\h 1394 02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:06,000 for two million years and people go like oh wow\h okay well right on le why don't you join oprah\h\h 1395 02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:12,160 the point here is that you put out the information\h and keep on writing and talking about what you\h\h 1396 02:30:12,160 --> 02:30:17,439 have experienced and those people that need to\h hear it will hear it because i personally cannot\h\h 1397 02:30:17,439 --> 02:30:23,839 relate to you to be you know most of us everything\h we know about ourselves and how long we live\h\h 1398 02:30:24,399 --> 02:30:32,479 is basically just you know i cannot imagine in a\h body physically being alive for two million years\h\h 1399 02:30:32,479 --> 02:30:38,080 and so you know for you you're just wanting me\h immediately to jump onto that bandwagon and say\h\h 1400 02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:43,040 ken you're right you you are 100 right let\h me get you with the president and everyone\h\h 1401 02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:48,080 else that's out there it's like you know\h you have to have a sense of reasonability\h\h 1402 02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:55,280 shouldn't that take precedence over anything else\h because i've been here for 20 not 2 million 20\h\h 1403 02:30:55,280 --> 02:31:00,160 million years physically and i have all the\h answers to everything and everybody's like\h\h 1404 02:31:00,160 --> 02:31:06,160 like you just said i'll just mute you i'm like are\h you kidding me that's how i said i said i meet you\h\h 1405 02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:11,439 because i'm trying to speak and you keep speaking\h over me that's what i meant with me i haven't i\h\h 1406 02:31:11,439 --> 02:31:18,000 that's right obviously you've called in before\h and i answer you call and you answer raise your\h\h 1407 02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:23,600 hand this time and you know i have no objection\h to you speaking you you know your voice because\h\h 1408 02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:30,159 at least from my platform point of view this is\h all i can do is listen to you hear you out and\h\h 1409 02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:36,639 that's as far as i can go i can't invest you know\h in your story i can't do specific things you know\h\h 1410 02:31:37,439 --> 02:31:42,240 it has to reach certain people that i\h guess need to hear what you have to say\h\h 1411 02:31:42,240 --> 02:31:45,840 but you know at this point all i can\h do is hear you out and leave it at that\h\h 1412 02:31:47,439 --> 02:31:52,719 yeah well you got good public relations me i don't\h get nothing i get thrown under the bus like i said\h\h 1413 02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:59,280 well but with all the different stories that i was\h telling i have to take my time and everything that\h\h 1414 02:31:59,280 --> 02:32:06,479 i've experienced i have to draw back to a common\h human experience that other people can relate\h\h 1415 02:32:06,479 --> 02:32:12,799 really spell it out in a slow and methodical way\h to where if i just jumped into the story that when\h\h 1416 02:32:12,800 --> 02:32:17,280 i first experienced it and just started talking\h i would have been all over the place people would\h\h 1417 02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:22,080 have thought i've gone nuts and there would be\h nobody listening you know but at least i've taken\h\h 1418 02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:28,319 the time to really dissect everything that had\h happened and then have it in a concise way and\h\h 1419 02:32:28,319 --> 02:32:34,319 manner so when i speak i'm talking and connecting\h and drawing dots to where they can you know kind\h\h 1420 02:32:34,319 --> 02:32:39,120 of follow back somewhat of course they haven't had\h the experience but they can kind of look back and\h\h 1421 02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:45,840 say okay i can see what you're saying here so for\h to just jump into i've been around for two million\h\h 1422 02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:51,438 years and like okay you know there's no human\h that i know that can relate to you that's why\h\h 1423 02:32:51,439 --> 02:32:57,040 it's being rejected immediately so that's why i'm\h telling you the same way that i did with ufohub\h\h 1424 02:32:57,040 --> 02:33:04,080 just simply continue posting talking and make\h your case known and those that need to hear it\h\h 1425 02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:10,080 will hear it and then we'll contact you if and\h when it's the time you know i never you know\h\h 1426 02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:15,200 ended up thinking i've never considered that ufo\h hub will be at the point where it's at now and\h\h 1427 02:33:15,200 --> 02:33:20,880 it certainly wasn't because i complained about it\h i just told what i understood to be the truth and\h\h 1428 02:33:20,880 --> 02:33:26,160 and conveyed my experience the best way i knew how\h and just let things play out and i kept doing it\h\h 1429 02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:32,399 on a regular basis and kept moving on and that's\h where i am today so i'm telling you to you know\h\h 1430 02:33:32,399 --> 02:33:38,960 you want to be heard continue continue the same\h way i can't relate to you but i'm not poo pooing\h\h 1431 02:33:38,960 --> 02:33:45,760 your story all i'm telling you is that it requires\h hard work to get to be heard or known at any point\h\h 1432 02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:50,800 because some person that might have written a book\h that immediately gets into oprah that's you know\h\h 1433 02:33:50,800 --> 02:33:55,200 through hard work and luck that they immediately\h got to the top and now well known immediately\h\h 1434 02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:59,359 there's other people that you know will live\h and die and nobody will ever hear from them\h\h 1435 02:33:59,359 --> 02:34:03,519 and have some amazing things to tell us\h about so just always keep that in mind\h\h 1436 02:34:04,640 --> 02:34:11,199 can i say something really quick sure i've been\h here for 20 million years i really have all my\h\h 1437 02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:16,399 ducks in a row i'm one of your ancient ancestors\h and this is how i'm getting treated today\h\h 1438 02:34:16,399 --> 02:34:23,359 by everybody you're one of your ancient ancestor\h fathers me because of all this happened to me is\h\h 1439 02:34:23,359 --> 02:34:29,519 getting thrown on the bus by all of you new people\h who are here today who are showing me no respect\h\h 1440 02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:35,600 whatsoever and just saying well this and this\h and using it as an excuse now i'm the one with\h\h 1441 02:34:35,600 --> 02:34:40,560 all the proof of everything if you really want to\h pay attention and listen and learn and take your\h\h 1442 02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:46,880 time and do it right i have all my ducks in a row\h and i'm not scared to share and tell the truth and\h\h 1443 02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:51,920 show the proof of things it's just that easy it's\h just i don't have good public relations that's all\h\h 1444 02:34:52,479 --> 02:34:57,519 because people don't really want to take the\h time you know i've been here for 20 million\h\h 1445 02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:06,560 years not 2 20 physically and because i was a time\h traveler with ufo with extraterrestrials i was a\h\h 1446 02:35:06,560 --> 02:35:13,040 pilot driving a ufo with extraterrestrials and i\h have all the proof of that too and that's really\h\h 1447 02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:20,960 important stuff you know well that's great so\h so keep posting you know and i wish you luck and\h\h 1448 02:35:22,240 --> 02:35:30,080 well yeah that's yeah okay i'll talk\h to you guys later all right take care 1449 02:35:34,560 --> 02:35:40,720 okay well um anyway so i'm\h gonna leave that at that but um 1450 02:35:46,720 --> 02:35:53,840 we have here we have hazel uh welcome 1451 02:35:56,640 --> 02:36:00,800 allison welcome as well pendulum welcome 1452 02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:14,241 allison says ednan so patient you are wow this\h has been live for two hours yeah usually you know\h\h 1453 02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:21,280 i try to go as long as i possibly can um\h because uh not that many people call calling\h\h 1454 02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:28,639 because i want this to be over telegram and\h be um auditory so sometimes some people get\h\h 1455 02:36:28,640 --> 02:36:32,400 to speak longer they're shorter depending\h on how many people are on the list but um\h\h 1456 02:36:33,840 --> 02:36:39,840 just basically one there's to be open lines and\h as if you've seen there's everyone and anyone that\h\h 1457 02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:49,120 can call in with with their story and so um um\h yeah you're welcome to to call in i'll listen and\h\h 1458 02:36:50,160 --> 02:36:56,080 however much i guess energy that i have whether\h two and a half hours or so because sometimes\h\h 1459 02:36:56,080 --> 02:37:02,240 paying attention to what's going on here\h and and the uh the stream and shifting and\h\h 1460 02:37:02,240 --> 02:37:06,960 all that i can only focus my attention i\h think roughly around two and a half hours\h\h 1461 02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:14,559 maybe if i somehow could take a break in between\h and just put up a screen we'll be right back and\h\h 1462 02:37:14,560 --> 02:37:18,320 do a quick restroom break or something\h drink something whatever and then\h\h 1463 02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:23,760 come back but i don't know how many people\h are still going to be sticking around for that\h\h 1464 02:37:23,760 --> 02:37:30,080 i figured around two and a half hours is a good\h enough time to give enough people to log in watch\h\h 1465 02:37:30,960 --> 02:37:37,200 dialing if they want to dial in and um you know\h kind of believing it that in the future if there's\h\h 1466 02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:42,800 more people coming in and um more attention\h then of course i'll take the time you know to\h\h 1467 02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:47,438 maybe shorten everyone's speaking time to like\h five to ten minutes so that can get more people\h\h 1468 02:37:47,439 --> 02:37:53,200 in but yeah i see you said you came here\h because of this the great interview with\h\h 1469 02:37:53,200 --> 02:38:00,240 reid summer so thank you um yeah i hope you find\h something something useful on the channel um\h\h 1470 02:38:00,800 --> 02:38:08,000 this is just open lines talking to you know the\h average joe out there and joe and average jane\h\h 1471 02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:14,080 whichever and um so anyway but yeah\h i'm i think i'm going to be done\h\h 1472 02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:22,000 uh right now i'm getting a bit tired and so\h next uh next friday or just coming up friday\h\h 1473 02:38:22,640 --> 02:38:28,720 sherry wild is going to be on we're going to have\h her live so hope you log into telegram to be able\h\h 1474 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:35,120 to ask your questions yourself later on or you can\h just put the question up and chat with three stars\h\h 1475 02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:42,720 before it so that i know it's directed towards\h the guest but okay i think that's pretty much it\h\h 1476 02:38:42,720 --> 02:38:50,480 thank you all very much for tuning in um i um i'd\h appreciate you all uh for being here and so we'll\h\h 1477 02:38:51,200 --> 02:38:59,599 um just do this again next wednesday another\h interview with a guest more structured this friday\h\h 1478 02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:04,800 but have a good day good evening\h wherever you are and i'll see you next